Official thread to discuss moderation policies

malmo wrote:

Hoser, eh wrote:

The rather innocuous thread referred to below has now been deleted, for some reason. It's of no consequence beyond its indication of the continued opacity of the moderation processes here. The thread was started by someone at Letsrun, purportedly to garner support for Greg's writing ambitions. Greg, however, took issue with some of the sincere, professional advice he was given and disliked one or two users' screen names. So he requested the thread be locked and it is now gone.

Message board glitch. It's there.

John Schiefer of Track & Field Media (the predecessor to Letsrun) once said "Don't believe everything you read." The corollary is, "Don't believe everything you don't see."

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=9486706&thread=9485903#9486706

Malmo, you can be a part of my screenplay in some capacity if you are interested.

As for the other poster, I don't know who they are.

They wanted to give advice and gave it. I didn't ask for it. They made that decision.

They meant well yet are bitter I didn't want their perspective. They continue to talk about my screenplay.

Get a grown up username and maybe you can be a part of my show one day! (and get over yourself, lol)

Greg wrote:

malmo wrote:

Message board glitch. It's there.

John Schiefer of Track & Field Media (the predecessor to Letsrun) once said "Don't believe everything you read." The corollary is, "Don't believe everything you don't see."

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=9486706&thread=9485903#9486706

Malmo, you can be a part of my screenplay in some capacity if you are interested.

As for the other poster, I don't know who they are.

They wanted to give advice and gave it. I didn't ask for it. They made that decision.

They meant well yet are bitter I didn't want their perspective. They continue to talk about my screenplay.

Get a grown up username and maybe you can be a part of my show one day! (and get over yourself, lol)

Any luck with Film Rep? Is he the real deal?

Dear sir,

No one is going to take you seriously until you behave like an adult with integrity.

The quote above is one more lie from you.

I spend far too much time on LRC and saw that post. Where is this a threat to break your jaw?

And your response?

You are the one talking about deviant sexual activities. Always you.

I have been threatened here before (I think it was a case of mistaken identity but nevertheless) and it was a real threat to my physical integrity and that of my family.

Saying that one would like to see someone else (who you know will not do it) break your jaw is not a threat.

casual observer's quotes are all true and they all reflect one of the reasons why so many of us are so tired of the irrelevant content of your posts.

Stick to the analysis of doping violations, or the races of your favorite runners but please, leave the racism and the sexual stuff and your threats somewhere else.

I said this before; I have two teenage sons who read LRC and reading your disgusting posts is certainly something no father would want their children to do.

Thanks for your time.

wtfunny wrote:

Thread:

LRC: There seems to be a lot of negative stuff here and visitors aren't happy. Why are you unhappy? What are your thoughts on how we can do this better?

Visitors: We're unhappy with the racists and trolls. Ban racists, and require register users.

LRC: you don't know what you're talking about. This is not the problem.

That's hilarious, and exactly what happens.

I have no interest in your screenplay nor am I bitter should you chose not to take my advice--it's worth what you paid for it.

The thread and its bizarre treatment by the moderators seemed a good example of the practices here that confound regular members of this community, so I chose to mention it here.

Hoser, eh wrote:

I have no interest in your screenplay nor am I bitter should you chose not to take my advice--it's worth what you paid for it.

Which is exactly nothing. Get a life.

Malmo, look what the Epstein thread has devolved into.

Hardloper wrote:

He deleted the post 48 minutes after it was pointed out to him.

Right. This time. We all know the issue is that he often refuses to delete them for days while immediately deleting any post calling out the racist posts. Deleting one post when all eyes are on him does nothing to change that.

Also, didn't he say he would push to ban Coevett permanently if the posts were shown to be true?

Hasn't that been shown? Including more posts from him that have surfaced, including him calling Kenyans the dumbest people he's ever met. Yet now Malmo's reaction is "I deleted it. End of story. "

where is the ban? I know Malmo can't ban directly, but shouldn't the Brojos have banned him by now?

You can't see how people see that as inconsistent?

Also, Malmo and the Brojos absolutely refuse to address the ongoing issue of him not deleting reported vile posts for days while obsessively deleting any post pointing them out. I'm not talking about grey area posts either. The blatantly obvious ones using slurs and celebrating violence toward minorities and liberals, lynchings, etc What possible explanation could there be for this?

If LRC refuses to address this, then what even is the point of a thread like this?

The brojos don't even respond to the thread they created to discuss problems on their site. They've left it up to Malmo, who is one of the main problems with the moderation in the first place. It's like saying "I understand you have an issue with our rabid pit bull roaming the neighborhood and biting your kids. Don't worry, we've arranged a discussion between you and the pitbull. We're taking off, he's in the yard outback. Have fun!"

So far, what I've learned on the official LRC thread discussing moderation policies is that they don't want to discuss them. Well, they did clarify that it is ok to post posts calling for the extermination of liberals and mowing them down with AR-15s.

Moderation is a thankless job, I get it. I rarely complain. However, I'm surprised that some of those who run the site act shocked that some people think the MB has a bad reputation for racist comments.

Coevett definitely gets incorrectly called racist at times for just saying things that are dumb, like that Iwan Thomas is the clean WR holder, but he clearly has said plenty that is actually racist as well (Kenyans are savages, Kenyans are stupid, Souleiman is dirty in every sense of the word, etc. And when called out later he just tries to cowardly hide behind the veil of trying to goad others with his racist comments, out of sarcasm.

And while it seems easy to just retort with "well just report it and we'll delete it" that is clearly not always the case. That Baltimore thread that Rojo started had disgusting comments up for days. It's a small staff you have to work with, but it ain't THAT small.

Carry on - I'll still be here regardless.

therottingghost wrote:

Also, Malmo and the Brojos absolutely refuse to address the ongoing issue of him not deleting reported vile posts for days while obsessively deleting any post pointing them out. I'm not talking about grey area posts either. The blatantly obvious ones using slurs and celebrating violence toward minorities and liberals, lynchings, etc What possible explanation could there be for this?

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Repeating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.

When I find posts like that they get deleted. When posts like that they get deleted. Period. I even butt heads with the brojos about race-baiting and sexists threads that they think are ok. I even get in heated arguments with them. So leave me out of your BS.

Moderating is an unforgiving task. It's a bit like garbage disposal. It's a dirty job and someone needs to done it, otherwise the message board goes to hell. The thing is, like the garbage man, I've seen unspeakable things posted here, things that human beings should NEVER post, or NEVER even think. That's not an indictment of the message board posters as a whole. There is a very small minority of posters who are responsible for 95% of the noise. It's really creepy sometimes -- actually more than sometimes, it happens often.

So stop the nonsense. Report those posts.

Greg wrote:

Malmo, you can be a part of my screenplay in some capacity if you are interested.

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The only film project I want to be part of is Carlos Arias Summer Vacation.

Carlos Arias, is a Chicago area runner transplanted to Eugene, Oregon.

In 1992 right after the Rodney King verdict the social justice warriors at the University of Oregon marched from campus to the Federal Building in downtown Eugene to protest. Carlos Arias was one of them.

Carried away with emotion, Carlos and another student started kicking at a huge window and broke it. Of course, this was before smartphones, but was captured on video by television crews and the police, so he was easily tracked and arrested, tried and convicted in Federal court and sentenced to two months in the Federal Penitentiary in Sheridan, Oregon. (link below)

Yes, there really is a Club Fed.

When Carlos got back he told he it was the best Summer vacation of his life. They were housed in minimum security, which was outside of the main prison were the hard-core criminals resided. There were no razor wire fences. No towers, no shotgun wielding bosses wearing mirrored sunglasses to beat them every day. They were given jobs basically servicing the main penitentiary. Carlos was on grounds crew, which meant he rode around in golf carts and gators, dropping off other campers to their mowing and clean-up stations. When the shift was over, he drove around the facility picking up his fellow campers. Really, it was more like a cushy union job, short hours, lots of breaks and no “shakin the tree boss” anywhere.

He said that they had a state-of-the-art weightroom, a music room, a movie room and a library. They had steak night and card tables and games. They even belonged to a Summer softball league playing teams from local businesses, which they won, only because they had plenty of time to practice while the other teams had to work during the day.

If you left the grounds for less than day they took away privileges for a short time. If you left the grounds for more than a day, they would add a couple of weeks to your sentence. Ironically, Carlos explained facetiously, taking away privileges and extending your sentence was actually an incentive, not a punishment.

Carlos said the first day at Sheridan Summer Camp was a bit unsettling, because when asked what they did to get to prison and they replied “broke windows” their camp mates naturally became skeptical, thinking they might be planted undercover Feds. But when one of the inmates recognized their story and said, “I remember you guys. I saw you on TV!” the tension died down, and they were welcomed into the club like heroes.

I’ve always thought that Carlos’ story would make a seriously funny movie.

Falsehood? Ok, if it's not you doing it then that part is a falsehood, but it is clearly not a falsehood that it happens.

if it's not you then who is it? It obviously happens and has been called out many times.

I'll take your word for it that it isn't you. What I won't do is pretend it doesn't happen.

Malmo, if an obviously racist/vile post is reported and not deleted, do you think mods should delete posts calling out that post while leaving that post up ? for hours? for days? for ever? Maybe it's not you, but mods on here have a repeated history of doing that and I would like to hear your stance on that practice.

I understand the practice of deleting the call out posts when you delete the reported post, but what possible excuse is there to only delete the callout posts?

also, when I asked the Brojos they indicated it was you.

What the hell is the matter with you? You will never be satisfied with anything. Use the report post function. Sign your name to it if you want, other posters do.

therottingghost wrote:

also, when I asked the Brojos they indicated it was you.

to clarify, they just indicated it was probably you, not definitely. They never verified and I doubt they looked, just going off the info I have. If you say it was not you then I'm inclined to believe you, but don't you think we should get rid of the mods who do this?

wtfunny wrote:

Thread:

LRC: There seems to be a lot of negative stuff here and visitors aren't happy. Why are you unhappy? What are your thoughts on how we can do this better?

Visitors: We're unhappy with the racists and trolls. Ban racists, and require register users.

LRC: you don't know what you're talking about. This is not the problem.

Rather than incessantly defend against the comments provided by the people you asked, maybe try to heed them.

+1

Last time I've seen such a thread where letsrun asked for input regarding improvements, it was even funnier. Most suggestions were either to delete less, or say why what was deleted (similar to earlier in this thread btw). And then, all of those comments got - you guessed it - deleted.

malmo wrote:

What the hell is the matter with you? You will never be satisfied with anything. Use the report post function. Sign your name to it if you want, other posters do.

Huh? I do use the report function and it doesn't work. I'm asking why not. That is the issue.

This is a thread explicitly created by LRC to discuss moderation policy. why do you get so upset when people clearly outline the issues that were asked to be discussed?

There is an issue. I've clearly explained why your proposed solution doesn't work to solve it. Why so upset?

I am not surprised. That's part of his MO. Interesting, that he does that here too, right under the eyes of the mods.

As for the paragraph about me, same thing of course, one lie after the other:

1) I am not Spade Detector.

2) I haven't ("obviously", lol) "forgotten to log out and log in again".

3) I don't claim "that everybody dopes".

4) I don't claim that "the doping problem in Norway is as great as Kenya"

5) I don't claim that "the doping problem in GB today is as bad as in the GDR".

Five direct lies in such a short paragraph, not counting the personal insult ("he's a very dubious character"). But apparently, personal insults are encouraged by at least one mod, who leads by example.