You cannot compare desserts to college aged woman...emotions are involved.
You cannot compare desserts to college aged woman...emotions are involved.
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It is quite presumptuous and wrong to try to generalize. There are many great professional coaches/teachers/professors around who do not use their status to prey sexually on women. I've coached and taught adult women for 20+ years from the time I was 23 yrs old. I've never crossed that line and find your suggestions quite insulting to many of my colleagues.
Canada Coach wrote:
It is quite presumptuous and wrong to try to generalize. There are many great professional coaches/teachers/professors around who do not use their status to prey sexually on women. I've coached and taught adult women for 20+ years from the time I was 23 yrs old. I've never crossed that line and find your suggestions quite insulting to many of my colleagues.
Since you quoted my whole post, I'm not sure what it is that you're taking issue with. I didn't say or remotely imply that male coaches coming on to their adult female athletes is endemic; I described what seems to be the thought process of the subset of men who in fact do.
As usual it's tough to please everyone. Suggest that the situation at Toledo is an exception and people flock to point out that creeps and lechers are running buck-wild in the NCAA coaching ranks; say that it's an everyday occurrence and guys like you protest and helpfully use yourselves as examples of coaches who haven't had sex with your charges.
never understood wrote:
This coach clearly made some big mistakes. But I have never been able to understand why our society always paints adult women above the age of consent as victims every time there is a situation like this. (Coach-Athlete, teacher-student, etc...)
The question is, are the women able to consent to sex or not? If they are, why does it matter who they consent with? Why do we distinguish?
I'm always amazed that the feminists don't jump all over this as a huge insult. Society always says the women are manipulated, implying they are too stupid to decide to have sex with these people (like Hadsell) on their own accord. How is this not offensive and insulting to adult women?
It's not a male/female thing.
Society also paints the 40 year old high school teacher who sleeps with her male students in a pretty bad light.
Admittedly a smaller sample size, but female coaches who make this mistake with male athletes seem to be treated with more sympathy, or at least more privacy. I hadn't heard of a 2015 incident regarding a former Patriot League assistant coach until I read about it on here yesterday (since been deleted), which if true is far worse than anything of which Hadsell's been accused.
Frank Lancaster wrote:
Admittedly a smaller sample size, but female coaches who make this mistake with male athletes seem to be treated with more sympathy, or at least more privacy. I hadn't heard of a 2015 incident regarding a former Patriot League assistant coach until I read about it on here yesterday (since been deleted), which if true is far worse than anything of which Hadsell's been accused.
Good call, had forgotten about Kearney! I guess they keep things under tighter wraps at Army.
Frank Lancaster wrote:
Good call, had forgotten about Kearney! I guess they keep things under tighter wraps at Army.
What does Army have to do with this?
rojo wrote:
Moderators,
Have you guys lost it? Please do not delete this thread. This is a major story - whether you want it to be or not - and there needs to be discussion of it.
Here is what another poster had up briefly this morning before the moderators went crazy:
Wait, aren't you the moderators' boss?
Frank Lancaster wrote:
Good call, had forgotten about Kearney! I guess they keep things under tighter wraps at Army.
Maybe girl on girl is less heinous? There was no specific mention of (WOMEN'S) track Coach Kearney having a relationship with a male athlete.
Eye Ron EEEE wrote:
Frank Lancaster wrote:Good call, had forgotten about Kearney! I guess they keep things under tighter wraps at Army.
Maybe girl on girl is less heinous? There was no specific mention of (WOMEN'S) track Coach Kearney having a relationship with a male athlete.
Niiiice
Serious question: are there any college programs where this does NOT happen?
Interesting how every time there is a negative thread about Emma Kertesz that this thread is "mysteriously" resurrected. The last time is was brought back from three full years ago. Maybe she already does sit in an 8x8 cubicle?
She was obsessed. Sought his attention constantly. Had a custom bobble head made of him. She texted him over 10,000 times from August to January. Those were the facts. So not shocking she still obsessed.
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