Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Thank you to both of you.

You know, Sally, unlike some of the other Trumpers, occasionally you show signs of being a decent person. Now, if you could just understand "bad" versus "BAAAAAD," you might be all set !!

Thanks again.

100% of the very large excrement pile of Trump words and actions ARE true. There's no "even if" about it.

Your second sentence is "confusing" to me like 2+2=5 is confusing. It's not confusing. It's just objectively incorrect.

Moreover, even the simplest, most stripped down comparison of the 3 results in exactly the opposite of your conclusion. Take away everything else that Trump ever did except trying to steal an election. Pile up everything that the other 2 ever did. Trump's is infinitely worse than the sum of the others.

If you don't agree that free and fair elections are important, you really should turn in your SS card/passport and catch a flight/steamer.

If you still believe that it was TRUMP who had the election stolen from him (and we know you do).....good god.

It really is "interesting" that the self-identified conservatives (more importantly, Trumpers) have become artificially and no doubt TEMPORARILY obsessed with starting/stopping wars (and not even doing that analysis thoroughly). No doubt, 99-100% of these folks were perfectly fine with kicking a little a** overseas UNTIL they decided it could be used as a Trump selling point.

And the SECOND that Trump or one of his spineless R colleagues is president, they'll be RIGHT BACK to thinking that they're fine. More than fine, in fact.

And make no mistake, while he didn't get around to it in 4 years, if Donald gets back to the White House and EVER wakes up one morning and thinks that starting a war will help him or his ego.....standby. (HINT: Donald cares about ONE human being on this planet)

Moreover, a quick tally: Trump started no wars, AND got out of no wars (and sure, one was close, and clearly planned for poorly, but.....still zero).

Biden: No starts, one stop (that I didn't agree with)

Obama: No starts, no stops

Bush Jr. - 2 starts, no stops

Clinton - Balkans count? Barely. But OK, one start, 0 stops

Bush Sr. - One start, one stop

Reagan - Memory is getting fuzzy. Do Lebanon or Grenada count? Probably not. We'll call it 0 and 0. Pretty good trick for 8 years at the end of the cold war.

Carter - 0 and 0

Clear trends by party, or anything else? (even allowing for any fairly minor conflicts I forgot?) NOPE !!!

It's never made any sense. "I'm OK with the horrible things that Trump does and says BECAUSE he ________ (fill in the blank with something pretty much any other R would do, including appointing - SURPRISE, SURPRISE!! - conservative judges)."

Makes one think that it's simply MUCH more about simply liking combative as*****. And I'm not even sure it's completely about combative with the dreaded "liberals." Because Trump likes to savage EVERYONE. And the mouth breathers eat it up and love him for it, regardless of whatever else he does or says.

Sh**** country.

I hear they want to wait (JUST a bit longer) and make it a double-barreled announcement with Trump's infrastructure plan.

Dept. of Ministry of Truth head Nina Jankowizcz and the rest of the council of the Ministry of Truth ... Red Alert!!! The Biden just did a whopper on the disinformation front. This is like the biggest whopper ever. The Biden administration just said when Biden took office there were no Vaccine available but there were in fact 3 available. Here is a picture even of Biden getting his second shot even before he took office. Please disband the ministry of truth, replace Nina with someone truthful or just expedite the november mid-terms.

foxnews.com

Twitter allows White House to make ‘clearly false’ claim that COVID vaccine wasn’t available until Biden era

The Biden White House put out a brazenly false tweet about coronavirus vaccines that has yet to be flagged as misinformation.

Link:www.foxnews.com/media/white-house-shar...

No new wars under Obama?

Not Syria? Yemen?

shadowproof.com

Obama And His Seven Wars - Shadowproof

freesociety

Since becoming President, we have seen no “hope” whatsoever coming from Obama, and the elitist, insider-club, corrupt beltway policies that he happily advances. But we have seen the audacity of a lot of Bombs, and SEVEN WARS!...

Link:shadowproof.com/2011/03/21/obama-and-h...

Bill Clinton (1993-2001)

U.S. Intervention in Somalia
Ongoing conflict with Iraq (No-Fly Zone War)
Initiated/Engaged:
U.S. Invasion of Haiti in 1991-Operation Uphold Democracy
Bosnian War (1992-1995)-The U.S. participated, along with NATO, in a war against Bosnian Serbs and Serbia in Bosnia.
Kosovo War of 1999- The U.S. participated, along with NATO, in a war against Serbia in order to facilitate the independence of Kosovo.
1998 Bombings of U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania by al-Qaida terrorists.
U.S. Retaliation against al-Qaida in Sudan and Afghanistan -These incidents are often referred to as the actual start of the U.S. war with al-Qaida and Islamic Jihadist groups. This retaliation was called Operation Infinite Reach.
George W. Bush (2001-2009)
Inherited:
Ongoing hostility with Iran
No-Fly Zone War against Iraq
Conflict with al-Qaida
Initiated/Engaged:
Hainan Island Incident (2001)--A U.S. Navy EP-3 reconnaissance aircraft operating above the waters of the South China Sea was struck by a Chinese Air Force interceptor jet.
September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks
War in Afghanistan-The U.S invaded Afghanistan to fight al-Qaida and the Taliban
Invasion and Occupation of Iraq

Barack Obama (2009-2017)
Inherited:
Ongoing hostility with Iran
War in Afghanistan
War in Iraq-The U.S. officially withdrew from Iraq in December of 2011.
Conflict with al-Qaida-includes Drone War against al-Qaida and other Jihadist groups in Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, and elsewhere.
Initiated/Engaged:
Libyan War of 2011
War with ISIS-The U.S. military returned to Iraq in 2014 to fight against the Islamic State (ISIS or ISIL). This war also takes place in Syria, Libya, Yemen, and other nations.
U.S. aid to France in Mali War (2014)-U.S. provides air support, logistics, and other aid as France intervenes to stop Jihadist offensive in Mali
U.S. intervention in Joseph Kony conflict-U.S. troops aid Ugandan and other African militaries hunt down insurgent and terrorist Joseph Kony.
U.S. Intervention in Libyan Civil War (2014-Present)-U.S. involvement is primarily directed against Jihadist elements in Libya.
U.S. Intervention in Yemen Civil War -U.S. involvement is primarily directed against Jihadist elements in Yemen.
U.S. Intervention in Somali Civil War U.S. involvement is primarily directed against Jihadist elements in Somalia.
Donald J. Trump (2017-2021)
Inherited:
Ongoing hostility with Iran. This ongoing conflict escalated sharply in December 2019 and January of 2020, with Iranian-proxy forces (Iraqi Shiite militias) attacking U.S. bases in Iraq, killing American personnel. U.S. responded by killing a Shiite militia leader and a major figure in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Iran responded with missile attacks on two U.S. bases in Iraq, injuring over a hundred American troops.
War in Afghanistan
Wars Against ISIS, al-Qaida and other Islamic Jihadist groups in Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, northern Africa and elsewhere.
American Missile Strike on Syria (April 6, 2017)-In response to the Assad regime's apparant use of chemical weapons on a civilian target, the April 4 chemical attack in Khan Sheikhoun, United States President Donald Trump ordered a retaliatory strike against the Syrian air base at Al Shayrat. See also: American-Syrian Wars.
Joseph R. Biden (2021-Present)
Inherited:
Ongoing hostility with Iran.
In response to attacks (rockets and drones, primarily) the U.S. has launched retailatory strikes against Iran-backed (i.e. proxies for Iran) on these dates:
February 25, 2021: President Biden ordered retaliatory airstrikes on Iraqi Shiite militia targets located in eastern Syria. This was in response to an attack on February of 2021, when Iranian proxies (again, Iraqi Shiite militias) launched three attacks on American targets inside Iraq. One U.S.-mployed contractor was killed and U.S. troops were injured.
June 27, 2021: President Biden ordered retaliatory airstrikes on Iraqi Shiite militia targets located along the Iraq/Syria border. This was in response to drone attacks on bases in northern Iraq that housed U.S. forces. The two Shiite groups hit were the Kata’ib Hezbollah and Kata’ib Sayyid al-Shuhada militia groups. Iraqi media reported that four militia members died in the attack.
June 28, 2021: In response to the previous day's airstrikes, militia forces respond with rocket attacks on U.S. troops on the ground in Syria near al-Omar. The U.S. reported no American casualties, and responded with artillery fire at the "rocket-launching platforms."
War in Afghanistan (President Biden announced that U.S. forces would be withdrawn by September 11, 2021.
Wars Against ISIS, al-Qaida and other Islamic Jihadist groups in Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, northern Africa and elsewhere. This ongoing conflict with the terrorist group includes a successful special forces raid on the leader of ISIS, conducted in February of 2022. American forces attacked the ISIS -held building in the Idlib area of Syria. The ISIS leader, Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurashi, died in the raid on February 3, 2022. Rather than be captured, al-Qurashi blew himself, and his family up. The U.S. forces reported no American casualties.
In addition to the ongoing war with ISIS, U.S. forces have also sporadically been drawn into conflict with the Houthi faction in the Yemeni Civil War. The U.S. under Presidents Obama and Trump supported the Saudi-led coalition fighting the Iran-backed Houthis, though President Biden rescinded that support in 2021. However, in February, 2022, Houthi and allied Shiite Iraqi militias (the True Promise Brigades) conducted missile and drone attacks on targets in the United Arab Emirates (the UAE). The UAE is a member of the anti-Houthi coalition. American anti-missile defense units stationed in the UAE (where the U.S. has military bases), launched Patriot missiles at the incoming missiles. This was the first combat use by the United States of Patriot Missiles since the 1991 Gulf War. Source: Military Times

the difference is that this WH will correct itself when it makes an error.

whereas the trump white house would not correct itself.

The DOJ is SO corrupt that Garland still hasn't tried to touch Trump (to my and many others great displeasure), 1.5 years after such blatant behavior.

The view of corruption is exactly like elections. I only like elections that result in my desired results. And corruption is simply going after YOUR guy, or NOT going after the OTHER guy. All regardless of actual guilt or innocence, of course.

they'll do a mass media event with those things when they release Trump's tax returns.

When has this White House EVER corrected a non-truth? We can all agree that this is a terrible lie. When will Biden or Psaki come out and call it a non-truth? I am thinking never. They never correct lies. NEVER.

I will bet you a $1000 that they won't correct this.

Nothing to correct.

This is what they want.

Biden has no say

This WH claim falls into the same category as thousands of claims from the Trump White House...."vague enough to be both true and false".

On January 20 2021 the covid vaccine was not available to the vast majority of Americans; hence it's accurate to say that they had no vaccine. However, three covid vaccines already existed at that time. If the tweet had said "there was no available vaccine" it would be accurate.

As alluded to in my post, depends on where you draw the line. If we're drawing thick lines, since Vietnam, it's Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq (MAYBE the Balkans makes the list? Lots of folks there over many years....but not terribly violent for us, as I recall).

Everything else is minor. But sure, throw in some minors - which will obviously apply to presidents other than Obama. The fuzzy outline doesn't change, and the utter simplicity of "counting conflicts" to determine presidential competency remains. It's simplistic, dumb, usually transparently partisan (and inconsistent), etc., etc.

Poor old aloneandparanoidinhisroom 😂😂😂😂😂

ajc.com

Judge: Perdue’s election fraud claims are ‘conjecture and paranoia’

A Fulton County judge has rejected former U.S. Sen. David Perdue’s request to inspect ballots from the November 2020 election, saying his evidence of voting fraud amounts to “conjecture and paranoia.”

Link:www.ajc.com/politics/election/judge-pe...

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How can they say there was no Vaccine available when Biden was already getting his second shot? My wife had like 3 shots before Biden was sworn in. There WAS a vaccine.

3 million vaccine doses were administred prior to the end of 2020.

axios.com

U.S. set to end 2020 with just over 3 million COVID-19 vaccine doses administered

Orion Rummler

It's far short of Operation Warp Speed's goal of 20 million.

Link:www.axios.com/2020/12/31/coronavirus-v...