I like your Weird Al choice. When I was coaching the distance gals liked to ride in my van. Madonna came on the radio “Like a Virgin.” I started singing new lyrics “I’m not a virgin, touch me many times....” A week or so later one of the women said “Coach, you ruined that song for me.” :)
I am not going to even ask for these spurious allegations to once again be removed. It is silly nonsense, and just part of an ongoing campaign of harassment. As if the serial and childish down voting of innocuous posts is not enough.
From the very onset of my coaching career as a head coach for women’s and men’s teams I endeavored to equalize funding for scholarships and travel. In 1980 I coached the NJCAA Women’s Indoor and Outdoor National Champions while at Barton County Community College, in Kansas. This was a full two years before the NCAA even hosted a women’s championship event.
Last year I was inducted for the second time into the University of Texas-Rio Grande Valley Athletics Hall of Fame. This time for the four consecutive conference championships in women’s cross country. Their success in large part was equalization of scholarships and opportunity in the combined programs.
One can start this YouTube video at 35:00 to hear how fondly my former athletes talk about their coach, growth, and opportunity provided by the program. Keep in mind UTRGV has one of highest percentage Latino enrollments in the Country.
My apologies to regular posters for this distraction. I will not cower to this harassment.
Igy
OMG you just don’t get it. Do you really think that having successful female athletes makes it ok that you sexually harassed some of them? Do you even understand what the young lady was telling you when she said you ruined the song for her? It seems like her message went right over your head. She had a lot of courage to face you, but apparently it was for naught. I can only imagine how the others felt.
The most telling thing in all of this is that you have shown no remorse for your behavior. In fact, you come across as bragging about it. This is not ok.
This thread mostly discusses exactly what it's title states, 50+ training. Ghost of Igloi has been a long-time regular poster on this thread. He is a lifetime competitive runner who has trained with some of the standout coaches of the past, like Mihaly Igloi. He has had a distinguished coaching career himself, and he has been a long-time top-10 age group competitor who is one of the people in my age group that I have measured my performance against.
Unfortunately for him, he acquired a stalker/troll on LRC who has constantly tried to insult him and attack his posts for several years now. The level of obsessiveness of this person , who posts under multiple names is disturbing. Whoever you are, please stay off this thread and let us return to discussing the challenges and strategies for continuing to be successful competitive runners on the high side of 50.
We have a broad spectrum of ages and backgrounds on this thread, and any of us may occasionally make a comment that ruffles someone's feathers.
If you want to talk about 50+ running, please don't hesitate to join the discussion. If you want to attack a fellow poster, please take that up with the moderators and stay off this thread with it.
For those of you who don't already follow it, Amby Burfoot has an interesting blog called Run Long, RunHealthy, where he mostly covers articles on matters relating to older runners. He recently talked about an article on hopping/vertical jumps for improving running economy,
Igy tells us what a great coach he was. Old guy tells what a great runner Igy was. Both avoid dealing with the topic at hand. I guess that is because it is impossible to defend. Any other apologists want to give it a try?
I ran in my 20’s and 30’s, hardcore. I played masters baseball throughout my 40’s and sucked in running races. Resumed hardcore running in my 50’s, chasing the BQ. Kept creeping closer, but couldn’t get there, until . . . an injury and summer flu made me slow down: easy runs became slow and workouts were only once per week, rested. At age 59, I rocked a 13.1 and two weeks later, BQ’d. At our age, a daily run at any pace accompanied by judicious workouts goes further than dropping the hammer daily. I miss those daily drops. I digress. Summation: aim for racing 10km - 13.1 and the BQ will follow. Again, one runner’s experience.
I missed last week’s party. My apologies. Struggling with my constant heel whip pounding on my inner right ankle is tiresome. M last: 5.5M @ 10:59 pace
T last: 7M w/10x1:00 uphill
W last: 6.75M @ 10:35 pace
Th last: 40:00 treadmill
F last: 3.5M @ 10:49 pace
Sat last: 13.1M race. 14th year of this hilly race and I’ve raced each of edition. The first 4M were the usual 8:30 pace and then the wheels came off though it felt normal. Raced 2:07, 1:00 per mile slower than . . . ever for this distance. Sulked for a bit and then regrouped. While a BQ attempt is off the table for a bit, running through this is allowed. enjoy the week
is there a thread like this for us 40+ masters runners?
Should offer up your runs with the ups and downs, I’ll read that. I recall vividly retraining in my late 40’s to get to 6:00 race pace after almost a decade of playing baseball.
I ran in my 20’s and 30’s, hardcore. I played masters baseball throughout my 40’s and sucked in running races. Resumed hardcore running in my 50’s, chasing the BQ. Kept creeping closer, but couldn’t get there, until . . . an injury and summer flu made me slow down: easy runs became slow and workouts were only once per week, rested. At age 59, I rocked a 13.1 and two weeks later, BQ’d. At our age, a daily run at any pace accompanied by judicious workouts goes further than dropping the hammer daily. I miss those daily drops. I digress. Summation: aim for racing 10km - 13.1 and the BQ will follow. Again, one runner’s experience.
This is what I am on this message board for.. I am 56 and want that BQ of 3:35. So your insights are invaluable to me. Congrats on hitting your BQ BTW.
MY nagging question is this: I am 100% sure that the 8:09 pace is too fast for me for 26.2 at the moment. I just ran a 7:56 pace for 13.1 but I was spent. Do I hold off on a marathon race and continue to try to get faster even thought I will be aging and getting slower? Or do I sign up for a marathon and work on getting faster with the marathon training block knowing that pace is out of reach at the moment?
If you manage to maintain 7:56 for a half, then 8:20-8:25 seems to be doable for a full marathon with your current shape. This is 3:37-3:40. Good luck!
I ran in my 20’s and 30’s, hardcore. I played masters baseball throughout my 40’s and sucked in running races. Resumed hardcore running in my 50’s, chasing the BQ. Kept creeping closer, but couldn’t get there, until . . . an injury and summer flu made me slow down: easy runs became slow and workouts were only once per week, rested. At age 59, I rocked a 13.1 and two weeks later, BQ’d. At our age, a daily run at any pace accompanied by judicious workouts goes further than dropping the hammer daily. I miss those daily drops. I digress. Summation: aim for racing 10km - 13.1 and the BQ will follow. Again, one runner’s experience.
This is what I am on this message board for.. I am 56 and want that BQ of 3:35. So your insights are invaluable to me. Congrats on hitting your BQ BTW.
MY nagging question is this: I am 100% sure that the 8:09 pace is too fast for me for 26.2 at the moment. I just ran a 7:56 pace for 13.1 but I was spent. Do I hold off on a marathon race and continue to try to get faster even thought I will be aging and getting slower? Or do I sign up for a marathon and work on getting faster with the marathon training block knowing that pace is out of reach at the moment?
Register for a marathon that fits your training block. One big enough to have pacers/runners at your wanted pace. Something fun. I loved racing half marathons as prep for the marathon. You won’t run that many marathons anyway. Train consistently, letting the pace come to you. Don’t wait to do something you want to do. Worst case is you fail.
Anybody with any common sense knows saying these words in a van filled with young women is not alright. I’m an old retired male coach of females and would never have thought of uttering such an offensive statement in their presence. Age is not an excuse. It is not funny, period.
I am a female masters runner and see nothing wrong with saying those words. You would have to be an extremely fragile young woman to be offended by this. I find the joke pretty funny actually. Of course I am offended by most things coming from Madonna.