sorry cancel that they got into the House chamber. That may be wrong. Sorry.
Well, one of us may or may not be right. I thought they only got into one of the chambers (the one that wasn't being used at that time), and that everyone else was blocked by the barrier and security from getting to the chamber that the politicians actually were in.
Yes, I’m agreeing that the rioters did not get into the House chamber.
Attention mods: Malmo, Wejo. Rojo and/or any LR employee, check my IP and if it shows that I'm same as the "Democrats are pieces of trash" then BAN ME FOR LIFE- as Flagpole likes to say.
You will find once and for all that I am nor that person. I also want Fat hurts to be a man and apologize to me for making false accusations.
Besides a few similar expressions I have other reasons to be convinced it's you, Gary. If it's not you then you are being actively framed.
If the mods do come on here and say it's not you then I will apologize. But I don't think you are being framed. I think it's you.
I'm no IP address expert, but as I understand it, there are many ways to post as if from another IP address.
Regardless, when accused of posting as another poster that I am not, I will still ask Wejo (and Wejo only) to "CHECK MY IP ADDRESS, AND IF I AM THE SAME POSTER AS X, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!
[don't forget ALL CAPS and many exclamation points...though there is a limit there...it won't let you post if over a certain number, but I don't know what that number is]
Many never engaged in peaceful protest. Many came prepared for violence from the very beginning. They were organized and they planned their assault. They brought weapons and stashed more nearby.
This was an attack. They used the peaceful protesters as cover.
Interesting. I've never heard a leftist try to claim that BLM protests weren't initially peaceful but rather that they started as riots.
That's not a claim I can agree with. Protests don't become riots until violence is introduced.
And yet you're still not addressing the meat of my response to your post, but instead focusing on your own strawman.
So to get back to it: 10% of the protestors were not charged with possessing weapons, and 10% of people who are arrested being charged with possessing weapons isn't really any different from other riots.
I don't know of any BLM protests where there was a planned, organized attack.
Maybe you just haven't heard about how the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers planned and executed their attack on the capitol. They planned this weeks in advance.
They never engaged in peaceful protest. The insurrectionists used the peaceful protesters as cover. They attacked our government with the intention of killing the Vice President and stopping the peaceful transfer of power.
Without the capacity to attempt to do something, it's hard to argue there is an attempt to do something.
The insurrectionists obviously had the capacity to do what they planned. They almost reached their goals. I don't think you realize how close we came to total chaos in our government. The plan almost worked.
If the congress or the Vice President fled the capitol, it could have delayed the electoral count for days. This would then call into question the legitimacy of the process since the law requires the votes to be counted on a particular date.
Also, they came close to capturing Mike Pence. If they had held him hostage or killed him, then that would also have the effect of calling the electoral count into question.
When the parliament is forced from the parliament building, it is the sign of a successful coup. And the attackers almost pulled it off.
And furthermore, recall that the secret service pleaded with Pence to get in the car and leave. But he refused. If Pence had fled, the insurrectionists would have won.
One man's decision was all it would have taken to stop the count of electors. The attack almost worked.
Without the capacity to attempt to do something, it's hard to argue there is an attempt to do something.
The insurrectionists obviously had the capacity to do what they planned. They almost reached their goals. I don't think you realize how close we came to total chaos in our government. The plan almost worked.
If the congress or the Vice President fled the capitol, it could have delayed the electoral count for days. This would then call into question the legitimacy of the process since the law requires the votes to be counted on a particular date.
Also, they came close to capturing Mike Pence. If they had held him hostage or killed him, then that would also have the effect of calling the electoral count into question.
When the parliament is forced from the parliament building, it is the sign of a successful coup. And the attackers almost pulled it off.
+1
the coup was very close to happening.
'Oh' is wrong to say that the insurrectionists had no chance of success.
And remember that the WH was working with senators, representatives and paramilitary organizations to make it happen. This wasn't a one-off riot. It was part of an organized effort to throw out the electoral vote. There was a lot of power behind it and it almost worked.
has this ever been explained? The day before the riot, R Sen Grassley said Pence would not be at the electoral count. You can make up sinister stuff but Grassely is a very old man so he might have just lost his mind there.
NY Post:
Sen. Chuck Grassley on Tuesday set off a media firestorm when he implied that he and not Vice President Mike Pence would handle certification of the Electoral College results, before he quickly walked back the remark. “We don’t expect him to be there,” Grassley said Tuesday during a call with agriculture reporters, according to Roll Call.
No. 1: It wasn’t even close to an insurrection. Riot wasn’t really a good description, either. Protest would fit. It was that. Did it get out of hand? Sure, it did. But was it an insurrection? There’s no way.
Merriam-Webster defines insurrection as "a usually violent attempt to take control of a government." While the acts of some on that day could accurately be described as violent, and while the official business of our government was disrupted by the reaction to the events of the day, there was absolutely no attempt at a government takeover. There was little organization or command structure among these “insurrectionists.” It was certainly not as organized as the media-described “mostly peaceful” protests of 2020 where Portland, Seattle and other cities saw police facilities and other government buildings defaced and set on fire. Portions of some cities were occupied for weeks placing residents and business owners in jeopardy. There was none of that in D.C.
The Jan. 6 protesters were actually mostly peaceful. A few, either inspired by malcontents or overwhelmed by their own passion and emotion, decided to breach the Capitol. The actions of government were interrupted; there was disruption, but there was not even an attempt at overthrowing the elected government. It was dissatisfaction out of control. Protest is legitimate. Disruption, although unseemly, is not insurrection. Commemorating such events is stupid. Politicians have turned the Jan. 6 events into something they were not: noteworthy. The media played along and all day long listeners and viewers were subjected to news that wasn’t news as if a commemoration was warranted.
Perspectives on the day are different depending on the observer’s political perspective. But when the vice president of the United States equates Jan. 6, 2021 to Sept, 11, 2001 or Dec. 7, 1941, it amounts to nothing but hyperbole and manipulation for political purposes. The comparisons are woefully inaccurate and equally inappropriate. On Jan. 6, 2022, we were subjected to a performance, nothing more. It was a stage show, a work of fiction trying to convince us that what we knew was somehow something more.
On a GOP primary debate stage in SC, @TomRiceSC7 delivers the hard truth. This took courage.
“He was proud these people were sacking the US Capitol & he did nothing for four hours ... Our Constitution is too precious to risk.” pic.twitter.com/Igulx1toBc
No. 1: It wasn’t even close to an insurrection. Riot wasn’t really a good description, either. Protest would fit. It was that. Did it get out of hand? Sure, it did. But was it an insurrection? There’s no way.
Merriam-Webster defines insurrection as "a usually violent attempt to take control of a government." While the acts of some on that day could accurately be described as violent, and while the official business of our government was disrupted by the reaction to the events of the day, there was absolutely no attempt at a government takeover. There was little organization or command structure among these “insurrectionists.” It was certainly not as organized as the media-described “mostly peaceful” protests of 2020 where Portland, Seattle and other cities saw police facilities and other government buildings defaced and set on fire. Portions of some cities were occupied for weeks placing residents and business owners in jeopardy. There was none of that in D.C.
The Jan. 6 protesters were actually mostly peaceful. A few, either inspired by malcontents or overwhelmed by their own passion and emotion, decided to breach the Capitol. The actions of government were interrupted; there was disruption, but there was not even an attempt at overthrowing the elected government. It was dissatisfaction out of control. Protest is legitimate. Disruption, although unseemly, is not insurrection. Commemorating such events is stupid. Politicians have turned the Jan. 6 events into something they were not: noteworthy. The media played along and all day long listeners and viewers were subjected to news that wasn’t news as if a commemoration was warranted.
Perspectives on the day are different depending on the observer’s political perspective. But when the vice president of the United States equates Jan. 6, 2021 to Sept, 11, 2001 or Dec. 7, 1941, it amounts to nothing but hyperbole and manipulation for political purposes. The comparisons are woefully inaccurate and equally inappropriate. On Jan. 6, 2022, we were subjected to a performance, nothing more. It was a stage show, a work of fiction trying to convince us that what we knew was somehow something more.
all I can say sally is that if BLMers and or, say, militant muslim organizations had invaded the capital building violently and tried to detain politicians in order to stop trump from being reelected, you'd be screaming for their permanent imprisonment in Gitmo and the outlawing of BLM and any such org.
but you agree politically with these insurrectionists so you give them a pass.
Are you being facetious, or did you not see the video where the cops opened the doors to allow protestors in and there were people taking pictures with cops?
You're right that not everyone who entered the capital building that day were simply let in by police, but a large amount of the protestors that made it in were.
and since during BLM marches cops sometime stood by, that erases any guilt for the crimes those BLMers committed, right?
Standing aside and actively aiding are two different things.
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I would say that you can't possibly be that stupid. But you have proven repeatedly that you are indeed that stupid.
Fat Hurts already address your very cute rhetorical "Where were the guns?" If you paid attention, you'd know they were present.
"The government in waiting ready to be installed?" Ummm . . . maybe Trump & Co.? Just a wild guess.
Now, I know you are being paid to splatter your stupidity as widely as possible. But the sheer magnitude of the stupidity of your posts makes it completely obvious that no matter what you are being paid, you are clearly being overpaid - even while they are paying you in rubles. Don't you guys have anyone better?
here's something everyone can object to. I mean it's a rorscharch test, but it's offensive to just about everyone at some level.
WSJ:
Jared Kushner’s new private-equity fund plans to invest millions of dollars of Saudi Arabia’s money in Israeli startups, according to people familiar with the investment plan, in a sign of warming ties between two historic rivals. Affinity Partners, which has raised more than $3 billion, including a $2 billion commitment from the kingdom’s sovereign-wealth fund, has already selected the first two Israeli firms to invest in, these people said. The decision marks the first known instance that the Saudi Public Investment Fund’s cash will be directed to Israel, a sign of the kingdom’s increasing willingness to do business with the country, even though they have no diplomatic relations. This could help lay the groundwork for a breakthrough normalization pact between the two countries. Israel is deepening business and security ties with Arab states, including the United Arab Emirates, nearly two years after the U.S. brokered historic normalization deals. Mr. Kushner, former President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and a former senior White House adviser, played an instrumental role in the so-called Abraham Accords. He has also established strong ties with Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the kingdom’s de facto ruler. Since leaving the White House, Mr. Kushner has tapped his White House contacts across the Middle East to develop his private-equity firm, a venture likely to earn him lucrative fees regardless of the success or failure of its investments.
Now, I know you are being paid to splatter your stupidity as widely as possible. But the sheer magnitude of the stupidity of your posts makes it completely obvious that no matter what you are being paid, you are clearly being overpaid - even while they are paying you in rubles. Don't you guys have anyone better?
If you look at how incompetent their mercenary soldiers are, it's not a big surprise they cannot hire better trolls.
