One thing is for sure.
Lehigh marathon is going to be fully booked next year and 60% of the runners will qualify for Boston.
We know the secret now...
I think they should increase the fee since you can qualify for Boston. They should advertise it!
One thing is for sure.
Lehigh marathon is going to be fully booked next year and 60% of the runners will qualify for Boston.
We know the secret now...
I think they should increase the fee since you can qualify for Boston. They should advertise it!
Mike or the fake you can knock me all you want , let's put my race time up against your race times it's not even close , I have done over 175 days and not once did I ever cheat , and I never doged the Boston gear three months before the race
Lehigh-fiving wrote:
If he cheated, I wonder what he told his friends and family when he "qualified" for Boston and how he could live for months having people pat him on the back.
In the article the OP linked, he said the school administrators knew in the fall about his BQ. Must have been boasting then.
"The plan was always to bring them with me, and do this trip as a family," he said. "The school has known unofficially about it since the fall. The teachers have discussed it, so it hasn't been a secret."
With the only "evidence" being a lack of photographs, this will die a slow death.
Criminal Minds wrote:
With the only "evidence" being a lack of photographs, this will die a slow death.
Yeah, just as slow as the death of Kip Litton's case.
fdsfdsfds wrote:
do you people really have no care for the idea of redemption.
that people make mistakes. have you never done something stupid/ made a mistake?
i ask that question, because even if he did cheat, if he were outed for this on the national news, he could lose his job, he could be shamed by his friends, he could randomly receive death threats.
and my question to you, does that punishment fit the crime?
if someone takes someone else spot at the boston marathon because they cheated, is this how they should be punished?
if you ran society, would you say it is a fitting punishment for someone to be shamed for the rest of their life and have difficulty getting jobs for an action like this?
i just see this all the time with the internet and the groupthink masses believing they know what justice is. I'm glad we have some semblance of a criminal justice system instead of justice by the groupthink masses, but still with the rise of the power of the internet, i think these irrational juries of 20 year old boys who dont realize they are wrong sometimes too, is ruling things. its lord of the flies.
people will advocate for change for this because society will see they dont want anonymous, immature masses running things
"Hang em'High"
[quote]fdsfdsfds wrote:
do you people really have no care for the idea of redemption.
/quote]
This guy isn't the type to redeem himself without getting caught. He's a cheater. He thought he got away with it. He wasn't seeking redemption.
IFartinYourGeneralDirection wrote:
From a Facebook group he is in:
Mike Rossi: These allegations are completely FALSE. I battled through several injuries in the past 2 years and trained extremely hard throughout to overcome these injuries and keep running. My biggest problem was trying to run too many races in short periods of time, without ever properly recovering. My times suffered. But during the summer of 2014 I concentrated solely on training for Lehigh Valley (with the exception of a couple 5ks). It was literally the only major race I have done where I was 100% healthy. I am proud of my accomplishments. I am not going to get into a back-and-forth battle with a blogger and a few anonymous people on some message boards who want to play internet detective and make conclusions without knowing me or being around me every day to watch how hard I trained and worked to get that BQ. This is all I have to say on this issue.
He's made all of his social media private so I can't quote it exactly, but he said he ran over 1000 miles in 18 months of training and got up to almost 50 miles a week. I don't see how that level of training is enough to take someone from a 3:45 marathon to a 3:11. It's feasible for some people, just not someone in his late 40's with this guy's profile.
He has deleted all of his accounts. For someone who was so willing to defend a letter to not defend something so black and white, it suggests very strongly he cheated.
My offer of $1000 to his favorite charity for him to run within 15 minutes of his boston qualifier still stands.
Seriously guys, do we really need to post on the principal's son's facebook page that Rossi is a douche nozzle? It's one thing to catch a cheat but when you stoop to his level then the accuser is just as bad. Just for once can someone here try to have a little class? As much as I like a good "outing" it's pretty obvious that over half of these posts on here are posted by the same guy.
dfadsfasfd wrote:
the principle's son has been informed of Rossi's cheating, someone linked him the thread in his Facebook post
https://www.facebook.com/lee.marbury/posts/10103631038791008
fdsfdsfds wrote:
do you people really have no care for the idea of redemption.
that people make mistakes. have you never done something stupid/ made a mistake?
i ask that question, because even if he did cheat, if he were outed for this on the national news, he could lose his job, he could be shamed by his friends, he could randomly receive death threats.
and my question to you, does that punishment fit the crime?
if someone takes someone else spot at the boston marathon because they cheated, is this how they should be punished?
if you ran society, would you say it is a fitting punishment for someone to be shamed for the rest of their life and have difficulty getting jobs for an action like this?
i just see this all the time with the internet and the groupthink masses believing they know what justice is. I'm glad we have some semblance of a criminal justice system instead of justice by the groupthink masses, but still with the rise of the power of the internet, i think these irrational juries of 20 year old boys who dont realize they are wrong sometimes too, is ruling things. its lord of the flies.
people will advocate for change for this because society will see they dont want anonymous, immature masses running things
He didn't mind trying to shame his kids' principal in the media, did he? A principal trying to do her job. He can dish it out, but he can't take it.
Of course, the saddest thing about this whole saga is the number of idiots who applauded his letter--rather than dismissing it as the work of an attention-seeking jerk who considers his hobby more important than his kids' education.
guys please wrote:
" it's pretty obvious that over half of these posts on here are posted by the same guy.
Incorrect.
Top Noticer wrote:
guys please wrote:" it's pretty obvious that over half of these posts on here are posted by the same guy.
Incorrect.
So that's the part of my post you have a problem with? I honestly think the same guy is posting multiple times here (and on FB and twitter and other blogs). Of course I can't prove it but you can't prove it otherwise.
I guess you think it's perfectly fine that a createn with way too much time on his hands can spew hate onto facebook. Let's make sure the entire world knows just how shitty we at letsrun can get.
Looks as if this guy stole a page out of Kip Litton's cheating manual. Wonder if he ripped out a few pages of dane's book as well and used an RV? I know people tear out pages of these narcissists books but it is to mainly wipe their a$$es with it while TRULY running. Cheating sacks of crap!
How you know it is same person?
Doubt wrote:
How you know it is same person?
Are you replying to citizen kane or me?
I would bet that there is just one person (Mr. Rossi or his accomplice from Lehigh) posting under different user names saying to "take it down a notch" etc. anyway, Mike (Mikes "friend"), welcome to LRC, it's going to be a great ride and we are just getting started!
I think it's fine to out a cheater. I don't think it's fine to post candid photos of the cheater with his daughter. That seems icky to me--and, more importantly, not at all relevant to the mission at hand.
I think it would be helpful at this point if somebody here went back through the thread and posted a bulleted, point-by-point brief for the prosecution. The case for MR having cheated is....? Lack of during-the-race photos that one would expect? Lack of expected bragging about the race in question, compared with much bragging about other races? Sum up the case, please.
The general, non-running nerd, public will never condemn this jackass based on analysis of his previous times. Your general person has no idea about pace extrapolation. I won a local 10 miler running a pace of 6:15/ mile and people at the end asked me if I was a professional runner,
We need more undeniable proof to hang this douchebag...like some Lehigh runners coming forth and making statements.
We don't need more evidence. The evidence seems rock solid. It's not a question of gathering more evidence for the general non-running public - we have evidence he cheated. What is more important I think is whether the general non-running public will CARE that he cheated.
If he cheated in Boston or a big city marathon then I think people would agree he's a bad cheater, but I worry that since it was such a tiny backwater marathon that most people won't care.
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