A far as I remember from the 3 names I did refer are Rashid Ramzi, Mourith and António Pinto. only one didn´t trained in altitude.
However I refuse to think that the analysis of the EPO is confined to altitude training. The 56% hematocrit I said that Antonio Pinto got in the year 2000m what took him to win the London marathon in 2:06:36 european record, I didn´t say that he took EPO. What I say is that if high hematocrit didn´t help why he did his all time best world class performance with high hematiocrit ? See, Renato assumption that high hematocrit does lead to performance enhance is incomplete.
Well, the Kenyans they don´t ? Might be that something about EPO or high hematocrit doesn´t work so well with altitude training but well with just sea level, that doesn´t work wit Kenyans that works for others. But in´t Renato Canova that always say that we all Africans, Caucasians etc we got the same genes, we got the same parameters at the physiologic component, and that´s not on him that he says the performance can´t be different from ethnic or whatever difference ? So why a Kenyan deals different with hematocrit that other human being don´t ? Might be someone deals different but not by race or place of living.
Besides, sorry, running and performance is universal, the discuss can´t be placed and confined to Kenyan runners one side and all the others another part. This is what i mean by inconsequent logic.
The keneyas are the world best, inten friont iof almost all the runs, i respect that and suport and applaude. But for teh sake of our sport, they are still one minority in number o distance run sport.