Shelby Houlihan 30:47 10k on the roads: Is this legal for her to do?

I agree that there are lots more "anti" posts than "pro" ones. But there are a reasonable number. If we were talking about a Kenyan there'd be almost none.

Except the East Africans are doping on such epidemic levels that people here had to invent pseudo scientific "genetic" explanations for it. Look at the diamond league women's 1500m today. Four Ethiopians at 3:57 or lower, two below the 3:55. It is like watching the Chinese circa 1993. It is a complete and utter farce, but people just play along with it. And then Kipyegon running 3:49 earlier this year. Clean? Suurrreeeee.

It took 60 tests over three years to nab Houlihan. You think that is happening in a failed state like Ethiopia, assuming the sports authorities there are not corrupt to begin with? Or, despite the progress, Kenya? Even under ideal circumstances the dopers will not be caught the overwhelming percentage of the time. It is a miracle Houlihan was caught.

Kenya and Ethiopia should be banned outright.

And what about Chrissy Gear? I didn't even know who she was when she went flying past Coburn and Wayment. Why is no one accusing her of doping? Why the focus on Houlihan, Valby, and Wiley and her coach? With very few exceptions American women distance runners are not doping.

LOL. No. That sample was not inconclusive: both A and B were positive for nandrolone, resulting in a well deserved (standard!) ban of four years for intentional doping.

It also wasn't WADA, but USADA and AIU. But yes, very telling that it needed more than 60 tests (60 were from USADA) to finally nab her. Of course the history of USADA with their cute but illegitimate heads-up! phone calls made it easy for that cheat (and others!), as far as USADA was concerned.

Who?

He has it out for Wiley and her coach, so I imagine it is the Wiley coach Sinclaire Johnson.

No. Lauren something or other.

Can we all stop acting this stupid or like we have amnesia?

Krissy Gear is in her first full year as a pro and it's totally normal to see huge gains. She flew past a past-her-prime Emma Coburn to run a fast but reasonable steeple time.

If she was running 8:55 I'd be floored. She didn't.

The Valby accusations are stupid and are largely based on her old coach Solinsky having a shady past.

Shelby--and say it with me--TESTED POSITIVE--for a steroid. This is not an accusation. It is a positive test. Do you fundamentally understand what that means? We're not wondering. She's serving a ban for testing positive, for doping.

But she cried about her innocence and whined about the system and the broken running media ate it up. Now the people on the ground have to work double time to correct the record because the media won't report the facts on their precious American baby.

So they have to remind everyone that Shelby

had weird and suspicious progression going from a 4:09 1500 meter runner out of college to running a 3:55--a time so few can ever run. For more on her progression see the tweet below:

Lied and misled people multiple times--she didn't tell anyone she ordered a beef burrito. She tried to tell people it was a trace amount. She lied during her provisionary ban claiming she was injured when she actually wasn't allowed to compete. She lied and said USADA and tygart were on her side when they weren't.

Well yes, but what do you expect from a drug cheat? Of course they lie and lie.

And her "supporters" here? A lot of BTC athletes, friends and family including her mom. Don't expect logic and facts from them.

Not even close. The other 59 samples could have also all tested positive as well, but under the threshold for nandrolone (which isn't 0). That is how microdosing works. We give you 60 chances to microdose properly, but when you mess up and rise over the threshold you are going to get popped.

Nice graph! Beautiful visual representation of what I've been saying. A "linear trend" is another way of saying she had a steady progression in her 1500 times. Just like I told you. No steep drops in her 1500 in one year like Heather Maclean's sudden 12-second drop from 4:17 to 4:05.

Stunned by the hatred on here. Y'all haters might not like it, but neither the Beer Mile nor the podunk Iowa 10K are USATF sanctioned events, and if there is nothing in the race rules that specifically relate to a USATF suspension or a doping result, there's nothing the races can do to keep her out, because, you know, this is still a free country, the prissy opinions of Let's Run anti-doper ragers notwithstanding. And boy howdy are y'all really going to hating life in 18 months when her suspension is lifted. You folks should seriously chill out.

Lot of triggered libs in here. Their brains are.short circuiting trying to see those tattoos as beautiful, in denial of cold objective reality

Above post was intended for the Swoboda tattoo thread, no idea how it ended up here. Mods feel free to move or delete my post

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She will break the American record for 10K.

Terrific. "hatred", "y'all haters", "prissy opinions", "anti-doper ragers", "hating life"...

Thank you for making my point.

As a private business couldn’t they just refuse service? Like not take her money for a registration.

+1. Right after the 1500m, 5k records.

Senny Jimpson probably reading this in her PJs, seething. Loser.