Wise Old Man wrote:
There are really not many on this thread claiming that biological males do not have an advantage over biological females in athletics. Are there any posters claiming this? My position is that a certain level of competition it does not matter, and that the effort and negative impact of ensuring biological fairness outweighs the benefits. You may disagree, but don’t dumb down the argument to believers in science versus irrational flat earthers.
A poster on the previous page literally wrote this:
"Men, women, trans-people, everyone are ALL very capable individuals in athletics (and all other endeavors). Anyone disagree?
If that's the case, there should not be ANY separate divisions based on sex/gender."
So while this is not a specific statement of "biological males do not have an advantage over biological females in athletics" that obvious implication is that there is no need for separate divisions based on sex/gender because of that. I mean yes? no?
While not a poster on this site, a journalist (or alleged) wrote this in an online published article
"There is no proof that cisgender men are inherently more capable than cisgender women."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810857-andraya-yearwood-knows-she-has-the-right-to-competeExcept there is in the context of competitive sport which I know and obviously you know, but you would be shocked at how many people don't have that context (including the poster on this board I just refereed to). My fiancé wanted to have this discussion with me and I didn't with her because when I asked her quite simply did she know what an elite (we can even just say capable) time was for a male and female competitive 100m sprinter her answer was "like 20 seconds I dunno".
Regarding your position I actually agree with you - at some point/level of competition and performance it really doesn't matter at all. But I do believe that this level is either grade-school athletics (like 8 year olds and under) or casual, non-competitive sport. I remember as a 6-7 year old running the "100m" (more like 50) school sprint with everyone and it was just fun. But that's not the NCAA or even high school athletics. So to that point I don't think gender has ever mattered in this realm to begin with did it? Unfortunately this topic isn't about that.