Any man who thinks beating a woman in any sporting event is some accomplishment needs help.
Any decent high school boy sprinter can beat Elaine Thompson, wow, big deal.
Any man who thinks beating a woman in any sporting event is some accomplishment needs help.
Any decent high school boy sprinter can beat Elaine Thompson, wow, big deal.
DinoZ wrote:
Any man who thinks beating a woman in any sporting event is some accomplishment needs help.
Any decent high school boy sprinter can beat Elaine Thompson, wow, big deal.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
liar soorer wrote:
Because of their biological history.
One of balance, like all social construction of morality.
Do read stuff.Oh ! you never do.
As a starter try John Rawls.Or even go back to Kant.
But then you never got round to reading the WADA Code even after a 100 plus posts.
Because of their "biological history" - but not their present? It is a sign of your intellectual limitations that you are never embarrassed by your blunders. And they never end.
Separating of sex and gender.
Obviously their history is one that was based on a testosterone fueled puberty that has determined their current biology and one; that if you ever bothered to read around the subject; is not overcome by any testosterone limiting drugs.Thus biological history.
Simples ! The only blunder was to forget the limitations of some of the readers.
How are you getting on with John Rawls?
I am especially interested in his concept of “ veil of ignorance “. Any thoughts?
liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Because of their "biological history" - but not their present? It is a sign of your intellectual limitations that you are never embarrassed by your blunders. And they never end.
Separating of sex and gender.
Obviously their history is one that was based on a testosterone fueled puberty that has determined their current biology and one; that if you ever bothered to read around the subject; is not overcome by any testosterone limiting drugs.Thus biological history.
Simples ! The only blunder was to forget the limitations of some of the readers.
How are you getting on with John Rawls?
I am especially interested in his concept of “ veil of ignorance “. Any thoughts?
Rawls must have had you in mind.
Armstronglivs wrote:
liar soorer wrote:
Separating of sex and gender.
Obviously their history is one that was based on a testosterone fueled puberty that has determined their current biology and one; that if you ever bothered to read around the subject; is not overcome by any testosterone limiting drugs.Thus biological history.
Simples ! The only blunder was to forget the limitations of some of the readers.
How are you getting on with John Rawls?
I am especially interested in his concept of “ veil of ignorance “. Any thoughts?
Rawls must have had you in mind.
So predictable. I gave up an open goal and you could not resist.
Any apology for you not grasping the biology history point and then insulting?
Got round to reading anything of intellectual depth yet.
Any probs with Rawls and I will help you.
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Why post all these articles? Yes, one side of the mainstream
media sees this as a step forward. The other side of the mainstream media thinks it’s lunacy. I fail to see the point of putting up a bunch of headlines.
If you’re forming your opinions off of what the media tells you, then that’s a problem you need to fix.
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Lenny Leonard wrote:
Why post all these articles? Yes, one side of the mainstream
media sees this as a step forward. The other side of the mainstream media thinks it’s lunacy. I fail to see the point of putting up a bunch of headlines.
If you’re forming your opinions off of what the media tells you, then that’s a problem you need to fix.
His point should be obvious and it was made with a mic drop at the end.
Some people are suggesting that trans athletes are vilified in the media, and if not that then they certainly are not treated as heroes.
I think he made it unequivocally clear that they are very often treated as heroes, trailblazers, courageous, and so on.
This speaks to why it is so difficult for women to speak up and say, "I am a woman and I have a problem with this," without risking being called transphobic.
Lenny Leonard wrote:
Why post all these articles? Yes, one side of the mainstream
media sees this as a step forward. The other side of the mainstream media thinks it’s lunacy. I fail to see the point of putting up a bunch of headlines.
If you’re forming your opinions off of what the media tells you, then that’s a problem you need to fix.
I thought the articles were a good addition to the thread.
They inform my thinking but do not form them.
This is a matter of worldwide significance and not beer league .
I'm transphobic , if ya stand to pee you are a man so act like one.
Do conservatives not understand humor?
That’s a great sketch, but just so I can explain it to you again as it is analogous to our conversation:
The old guys who are at the party = those who think transgender women are “men” who are “ruining women’s sports.”
The women in the sketch = those of us who realize that transgendered people are actual real people who deserve to compete in the gender in which they live every other facet of their lives.
The sketch is presented in a serious way, but we laugh at it because we can clearly see that the premise is absurd. It’s called satire.
You compete in athletics vs those who are the same sex, doesn't matter who ya want to be it's about what you actually are.
DinoZ wrote:
You compete in athletics vs those who are the same sex, doesn't matter who ya want to be it's about what you actually are.
This is the transphobic argument in a nutshell:
Trangenderism does not exist, so transgender athletes cannot compete in their gender.
I’m sorry if this comes off as “misogynistic,” but if don’t even accept the humanity of a group of people, then I’d say that you are oppressing them. As a result, your opinion on their participation is null based on not even getting over the first hurdle.
If they're considered such heros, why does 60% of Americans believe they should be banned from women's sports? Why have so many states passed legislation to ban them? I don't recall a single post on LR from someone saying they were cheering on Eastwood or any other transgender athlete. Most posters seem to be outraged by Thomas swimming well.
There's no poll to support it, but Thomas's fans are probably less than 20% of the population. There's a larger population at the other end that actually hate her.
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You won't even say 'man' or 'woman' anymore. Reduced to 'male person', 'female person' and 'trans-identified person'. You are using this weird language because deep down you understand more goes into womanhood than just wombs and X chromosomes.
And you are wrong also. If you are born a boy and later identify as a woman, it's a fair bet you're going to have a tough time. To reject the privileges of manhood in favor of identifying as a woman is just about the surest way to infuriate the sexists. The patriarchy considers masculinity the highest characteristic and for someone to reject it is a huge deal.
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The discussion is whether they transgender athletes are "heros" Acceptance and cheering them on are different things. It's already been ruled in court that they are allowed to compete against women so I consider ranting about it a waste of time but I'm hardly a fan.
Many of LRers actually are bigots but comments about the transgender athletes possibly having an unfair advantage or that they should have their own division, don't bother me in the least.
I don't recall your posts on other threads but I haven't really seen the type of labels that you claim have been put on you or even for the actual bigots here. I don't have any problem with anything you have posted on this thread.
I don’t think males should be in women’s sports.
Transwomen are not males. The reason you are being called bigoted is because you call transwomen “a guy who feels like the opposite sex.”
Transwomen are women. They should be in women’s sports.
Again, we should not be making decisions based on making a “fair play for female persons in sport.” This is even made moot based on the fact that transfemales are females.
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