Biden to mandate vaccine for most employees

The Unkle wrote:

“We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” Biden said in a speech from the White House, making clear that he blamed the unvaccinated for the current surge. “And your refusal has cost all of us.”

The arrogance and condescendence in those words.

Biden is just reading them.

The people who wrote them expose themselves.

He's been wrong about a lot recently. But Biden is right on the money here. Your ignorance has cost American lives.

The Clown Show wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

“We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin,” Biden said in a speech from the White House, making clear that he blamed the unvaccinated for the current surge. “And your refusal has cost all of us.”

The arrogance and condescendence in those words.

Biden is just reading them.

The people who wrote them expose themselves.

He's been wrong about a lot recently. But Biden is right on the money here. Your ignorance has cost American lives.

I highly recommend the user blocking script. I didn’t even know Uncle was in here until you quoted him.

Harambe wrote:

wazzu1452 wrote:

The strategy for Biden appears to be:

(1) Fail at keeping a promise;

(2) Call for an unconstitutional thing to compensate;

(3) Watch it be struck down;

(4) Blame everybody else.

I mean he really looked dead at the camera and said "this is not about freedom, this is not about personal choice"

Only about 25% of Americans oppose vaccine mandates. This is a political win. 50% or more are in favor.

Biden just steamrolled the antivaxxers and controls the narrative now.

P.S. ICUs in Idaho look terrible? You guys still terrified of the vax up there? Better man up...

Please post the data for this. Should be easy for a science whizz like yourself.

I already posted some showing this is not the case though.

Here it is again in case you “missed” it

Yawn^9 wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Only about 25% of Americans oppose vaccine mandates. This is a political win. 50% or more are in favor.

Biden just steamrolled the antivaxxers and controls the narrative now.

P.S. ICUs in Idaho look terrible? You guys still terrified of the vax up there? Better man up...

Please post the data for this. Should be easy for a science whizz like yourself.

I already posted some showing this is not the case though.

Here it is again in case you “missed” it

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/04/americans-are-sharply-divided-over-vaccine-mandates-cnbc-survey-shows.html

“Inflated death counts”

You dodged that one didn’t you :)

Harambe wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Your friend died of what? Don't tell me the he died of the vaccine, or I will want PROOF of that, because I call BS if that's what you're saying. And, what an a$$hole you are to wish death upon anyone. I, on the other hand, would like all of you morons to live which is why I think you should all get vaccinated.

He died b/c he got so owned on a messageboard that he had a heart attack. Tragic. Even worse, Biden's thugs labeled it a "COVID death" to further their NWO agenda (Soros was involved, I can't remember how).

Flagpole, I didn't wish you die. Learn to read. I said it was unfortunate that a good man died because of bad men like you.

Harambe, you are too much of a coward. You deserve nothing but pity.

439 wrote:

Flagpole, I didn't wish you die. Learn to read.

Learn to write before demanding that someone learn to read your writing.

439 wrote:

Harambe wrote:

He died b/c he got so owned on a messageboard that he had a heart attack. Tragic. Even worse, Biden's thugs labeled it a "COVID death" to further their NWO agenda (Soros was involved, I can't remember how).

Flagpole, I didn't wish you die. Learn to read. I said it was unfortunate that a good man died because of bad men like you.

Harambe, you are too much of a coward. You deserve nothing but pity.

“How unfortunate you didn’t go instead of him.”

this is it wrote:

These anti-vax nutjobs just don't get it. Sadly I suspect we're going to have to start rounding them up and sending them to vaccination camps.

If it gets to the point where the anti-vaxxers are rounded up and carted to camps, it'll be a strange sight to see.

I know TSA is implementing hefty no-mask fines of $500 or $1000 for first offenses and subsequent offenses are even more.

jecht wrote:

this is it wrote:

These anti-vax nutjobs just don't get it. Sadly I suspect we're going to have to start rounding them up and sending them to vaccination camps.

If it gets to the point where the anti-vaxxers are rounded up and carted to camps, it'll be a strange sight to see.

I know TSA is implementing hefty no-mask fines of $500 or $1000 for first offenses and subsequent offenses are even more.

$1000 is close to monthly income for most antivaxxers. Scary!

Most of the Afghanistan situation is fixed. There are a few Americans still trapped but I think a majority of them are safe.

Bigger issue is Covid mandates.

when you are dumb and weak. The entire world looks arrogant and condescending.

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Here it is again in case you “missed” it

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/04/americans-are-sharply-divided-over-vaccine-mandates-cnbc-survey-shows.html[/quote

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As most of you know, I am a Bernie guy. I think Biden has generally been just a continuation of the neoliberal failures that started with Clinton and ran through Obama to the present. But I have to say that he is showing a bit of a honey badger streak and it is mildly refreshing.

Biden broke with decades of neoliberal interventionist foreign policy and stated straight up in an interview that the US cannot solve international crises through military intervention. That is pretty huge.

To date, Biden has been taking a typically measured and focus group/polling approach to the COVID response. The CDC vaccine mask announcement in the late Spring was an obvious political move. Same with half hearted efforts to boost vaccine production through suspension of IP laws (Biden admin made the proposal to the WTO knowing full well that Germany would spike it).

But the vaccine mandate is pretty refreshing. It is almost like Dems are doing that thing where you get in front and tell people to come with you. What is the word for it? It has been so long. Something like leadering? Frontsmanship?

But seriously, Biden's people know that vaccine mandates are a hot button issue and not very popular. The typical neoliberal response would be to try to coopt the right wing position by supporting a watered down version of some sort of medical freedom legislation in exchange for increased funding for vaccine education programs. But Biden is just going straight at it. That is a pretty big change for the Dems.

Precious Roy wrote:

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Here it is again in case you “missed” it

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/08/04/americans-are-sharply-divided-over-vaccine-mandates-cnbc-survey-shows.html

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As most of you know, I am a Bernie guy. I think Biden has generally been just a continuation of the neoliberal failures that started with Clinton and ran through Obama to the present. But I have to say that he is showing a bit of a honey badger streak and it is mildly refreshing.

Biden broke with decades of neoliberal interventionist foreign policy and stated straight up in an interview that the US cannot solve international crises through military intervention. That is pretty huge.

To date, Biden has been taking a typically measured and focus group/polling approach to the COVID response. The CDC vaccine mask announcement in the late Spring was an obvious political move. Same with half hearted efforts to boost vaccine production through suspension of IP laws (Biden admin made the proposal to the WTO knowing full well that Germany would spike it).

But the vaccine mandate is pretty refreshing. It is almost like Dems are doing that thing where you get in front and tell people to come with you. What is the word for it? It has been so long. Something like leadering? Frontsmanship?

But seriously, Biden's people know that vaccine mandates are a hot button issue and not very popular. The typical neoliberal response would be to try to coopt the right wing position by supporting a watered down version of some sort of medical freedom legislation in exchange for increased funding for vaccine education programs. But Biden is just going straight at it. That is a pretty big change for the Dems.[/quote]

You really want Biden to be something he’s not. He’s Obama 2.0 without the small amount of charisma Obama had.

Both love shoving stuff down people’s throats. What you call frontmanship Americans call unconstitutional

Precious Roy wrote:

But seriously, Biden's people know that vaccine mandates are a hot button issue and not very popular. The typical neoliberal response would be to try to coopt the right wing position by supporting a watered down version of some sort of medical freedom legislation in exchange for increased funding for vaccine education programs. But Biden is just going straight at it. That is a pretty big change for the Dems.

Most Americans are vaccinated. Far more support vs. oppose mandates (substantial "no opinions"). This is a safe political move.

Don't let the few nobodies RAGING on LRC convince you otherwise. They are a small minority and will nevertheless dance when we say "dance" and vax when we say "vax."

Precious Roy wrote: But Biden is just going straight at it. That is a pretty big change for the Dems.

Nah. This OSHA stuff will never see the light of day. Just empty virtue signaling, as usual.

The Biden folks are already aware of his tanking poll numbers, and most importantly, the fact that 62% of Americans now view economic conditions as "poor".

(kudos to CNN for acknowledging this, btw).

Do you really think Biden is going to risk a sharp uptick in Black or Hispanic unemployment before the midterms with these goofy mandates? I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell if so!

Lol 3rd time you try using numbers without actually having numbers. You might be the worst troll on the boards in terms of actual ability.

Yawn^9 wrote:

Lol 3rd time you try using numbers without actually having numbers. You might be the worst troll on the boards in terms of actual ability.

I poll I posted earlier showed that ~50% or more of people favored mandates in various settings.

Only ~25% less opposed across the questions.

That's a 2:1 ratio of support:oppose. Easy political win for Biden.

Sorry. You antivaxxers are outnumbered and outgunned. Putting your fingers in your ears and pretending you didn't lose is effective for a day or two. I'll let you cope as you see fit :)

Yawn^9 wrote:

Lol 3rd time you try using numbers without actually having numbers. You might be the worst troll on the boards in terms of actual ability.

He posted it early - you are painfully dull.

50% vs 25% = 2X more people support mandates than oppose.