Kara Goucher MISGENDERS non-binary Nikki Hiltz. Uses HER pro-noun and not THEY/THEM

All this pronoun nonsense is about erasing the idea of womanhood.

Misogyny disguised as tolerance.

Trans community and nonbinary community? They are separate? I can't even tell what the difference is between the two categories.

Rich dude wrote:

Trans community and nonbinary community? They are separate? I can't even tell what the difference is between the two categories.

There are many resources that you can Google or research to answer your questions.

I will answer this as if it's a real question, coming from a place of genuine curiosity bc I'd like to think we are all learning.

It's fine to have questions like this one: I didn't know.

What's dehumanizing is to answer it with:

I dont care

I won't change

I won't learn

That doesn't exist

YOU don't exist (someone said just don't talk about Nikki, but they have the fastest time going into the finals. They did a great job! Why not talk about that, why erase them?)

Or even worse:

Answers that demand proof of showing sex..thats so violent.

Rich dude wrote:

Trans community and nonbinary community? They are separate? I can't even tell what the difference is between the two categories.

No, they are not really separate. There is significant overlap.

Trans is someone who is living other than the gender that was assumed at birth.

Non-binary is someone who doesn't have a identity as either man or woman - they might think of themselves as both, not identify strongly with either gender or they might be fluid between the two.

all brawn wrote:

I will NEVER bow down to this ridiculous PC BS.

I will always use him or her.

I do not care what you ‘identify’ as.

If you were born male and have XY chromosomes you will always be a ‘he’.

If you were born female and have XX chromosomes you will always be a ‘she’.

Always.

Lmfao who gets this triggered by pronouns..? I can’t imagine being so insecure that I have to post transphobic sh*t on LetsRun. Yikes.

Bernie Sanders wrote:

all brawn wrote:

I will NEVER bow down to this ridiculous PC BS.

I will always use him or her.

I do not care what you ‘identify’ as.

If you were born male and have XY chromosomes you will always be a ‘he’.

If you were born female and have XX chromosomes you will always be a ‘she’.

Always.

Lmfao who gets this triggered by pronouns..? I can’t imagine being so insecure that I have to post transphobic sh*t on LetsRun. Yikes.

Trying to protect our kids and future generations from the insanity of the left is not transphobic.

Don’t be intimidated by the name calling, those of you who are sane.

This forum is about running, which I assume you are poor at. If you want to post trumping garbage then plz go to Facebook

the media is corrupt wrote:

Bernie Sanders wrote:

Lmfao who gets this triggered by pronouns..? I can’t imagine being so insecure that I have to post transphobic sh*t on LetsRun. Yikes.

Trying to protect our kids and future generations from the insanity of the left is not transphobic.

Don’t be intimidated by the name calling, those of you who are sane.

what exactly are you protecting future generations from?

leftist insanity is a very broad, subjective thing.

thoughts and prayers wrote:

the media is corrupt wrote:

Trying to protect our kids and future generations from the insanity of the left is not transphobic.

Don’t be intimidated by the name calling, those of you who are sane.

what exactly are you protecting future generations from?

leftist insanity is a very broad, subjective thing.

Gay marriage 🙄

thoughts and prayers wrote:

the media is corrupt wrote:

Trying to protect our kids and future generations from the insanity of the left is not transphobic.

Don’t be intimidated by the name calling, those of you who are sane.

what exactly are you protecting future generations from?

leftist insanity is a very broad, subjective thing.

In this situation it would be more kids with depression and anxiety because they don't even know what gender they are due to incoherent pseudoscience being spread through the culture.

mehhh wrote:

There isn't any sort of "disagreement" in this post. Because you seem confused down to the base of what language actually is, I'll help you out. The post has transphobic elements in that Sam starts out by dehumanizing Hiltz by nit only ignoring their preferred pronouns but Sam takes it one step further by using the pronouns "is" and "this" as though Hiltz isn't a human. Sam also demands to know what is happening at the base, physical level of their body, which isn't something that is being discussed FOR LITERALLY any other people in the 1500.

These are both known forms of violence perpetuated commonly in the trams and non binary communities.

It's not about disagreement ots about use of language that is dehumanizing.

But cute try with all your words.

What are you smoking or are you just trolling us along here?

Please explain how one is dehumanising by not using someone's preferred (but incorrect ) pronoun? How? I do not have a 'preferred' pronoun, it is just the one that describes my sex and gender. If you call me 'she' I can always show you my goods.

And please brush up on grammar, there is nothing wrong with 'is' and 'this' in that context, it is used throughout the language to describe straight people. Is there some special code for trans people?

Really, please wake up. The most suicides are by males, especially in the <40 age. What are you doing about that?

But no one is using strawmen here by saying you are being hurtfull to straight males by accusing them of transphobia.

Grow up and be concerned about real world social issues. Maybe spend some time in a third world country and volunteer and gain perspective...it might help.

Or quit smoking that stuff.

China Joe wrote:

In this situation it would be more kids with depression and anxiety because they don't even know what gender they are due to incoherent pseudoscience being spread through the culture.

Quite possibly. There already is a bunch of stuff that lead to straight male suicides being the highest.

But let's rather be woke and worry about someone who "wakes up feeling like a dud", goes to compete with the women, and doesn't want to be called 'she' because that doesn't describe her on that particular day or moment.

As I said, taking the piss out out leftist (of which I am one), because they know that someone on social media will hit the cancel button

the media is corrupt wrote:

Bernie Sanders wrote:

Lmfao who gets this triggered by pronouns..? I can’t imagine being so insecure that I have to post transphobic sh*t on LetsRun. Yikes.

Trying to protect our kids and future generations from the insanity of the left is not transphobic.

Don’t be intimidated by the name calling, those of you who are sane.

The strategy of the left is to (falsely) label people certains names, ie transphobic who run contrary to their agenda in any way. These people who label others are predominantly afraid of their agenda being exploited or themselves being subverted in some capacity, so their reaction is to lash out and try to make their opposition appear "crazy," which in most cases is very weak and ironic behavior.

Your sentence was: what exactly is this Nikki Hiltz. What is going on down there?"

I'm really tired of going round the bend with you on this as you seem incapable of acknowledging that this is transphobic speech, and then you continue to come back and just argue your own perspective again and again, demonstrating that you are most likely of limited learning ability.

That being said, again in the interest of helping others:

Asking "what is this?" About a person then demanding to do a genitalia search IS DEHUMANIZING.

Suggesting that YOU are fine and comfortable showing your "junk" as proof of your sex, is cis privilege. You just keep on showing it!

Here are stats on violence that transgender and non binary people face. This is what we are talking about and thus is what these types of posts perpetuate.

I am also quite interested in the ways men experience things like violence and suicide in this world and if you'd like to start another post about that, I'm happy to talk about that separate to this issue, but not here.

Also, I don't care if you are "left leaning." Really that means nothing if you can only speak violence over and over again.

And? The answer please? What is down there? Male or female genitalia, I actually was not sure what she was born as because Wiki has gone woke too, no reference , just dehumanising 'they' and 'their'.

I am quite happy with what I was given, I don't want to trade it because sometimes my testorerone is low.

Why not ask what makes them unhappy in their own skin?

Pronouns like 'they' and 'their' would be what I would find dehumanising, if in future woke world someone were to address me, unsure of my 'preference'.

My preference is human, address me according to what I was bestowed with

I am not just 'left leaning', I have been up there with the 'Che's , I have , through what we went through in my mother country, learnt to stand up for my rights and for those of others. ...I still do it.

But I am not woke. It is damaging to real political advances that have been made in the alst 50 yrs. In a few short years it has become more alt right and partisaqn due to this feigned offence industry on social media.

What are you doing?

When people come out of this pristine social environment where the only thing that has bothered them is 'what restaurant do I go to today ' or what colour tie am I going to wear', then they , like you probably, look for something to be offended about.

I'm sorry, but I care more about, and doing more about, youth and all male suicide (again let me tell you its the highest cohort), rather than trans choices and unhappiness with their biology.

What are you doing?

And I am not accusing you of violence and hatred towards straight people leading to their struggles.

and look at this rubbish

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10659690

...also btw did you read that Sydney Morning Herald article I posted, or doesn't it marry with your offence feelings?

Surprise! wrote:

kjjh wrote:

You ridicule religious belief. I wish I could laugh at the beliefs of the leaders of atheistic, agnostic and other regimes and entities that were hostile to traditional religious beliefs. These leaders - Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Margaret Sanger for several examples - have been by very, very, very far, the worst killers of innocent human beings. Why have atheists, agnostics and other opponents of traditional religious beliefs been so horrific?

Atheism is a belief system like not collecting baseball cards is a hobby.

But you’ve declined to explain why those who don’t collect baseball cards strike no particular fear in others whereas powerful atheists elicit fears of mass slaughter.

Wolf Brand Chili wrote:

Kara Grouchy did that at a previous meet, as well. I'd presume it's an NBC editorial decision from their producers.

Heat of the 1500 with Hiltz running was interesting, lots of "she" pronouns used but Hiltz always referred to by her name, no pronouns. Imagine how awkward the commentary would be with pronouns not permitted at all.