So much for soccer pros all being fast distance runners

pretty solid. If they were training for distance, many would go in the 15s, I am sure, and a few 14s. From looking at a few pro rosters, I see that more soccer players than you'd imagine have a good build for distance, or at least middle distance.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1268212/Jesse-Lingard-Man-Utd-5km-10km-times-instagram/amp

Unimpressive. Discus.

Editor's note: He completed his 5km run in 18 minutes and 29 seconds, with an average pace of 3:42 per kilometre.

His 10km effort was done in 39 minutes and 26 seconds, with an average of 3:55 per km.

I am not a huge fan of these soccer does or does not equal a fast 5K. Based on high school T&F teammates who played soccer, soccer players tend to do best 400m & 800m in track & field and based on D-1 soccer players who were in physical education courses in college with me. There are rare elite soccer players who are best at 100m & 200m and others at 800m & 1500m. Soccer really isn't a sport for 5000m specialists.

I run 15 high and I make 6 figures, have a hot wife, and 2 kids, literally, but I'm not special in the slightest.

This dude isn't either but he's got a story about him. Hence money.

I’m a united fan...linegard sucks.

I’m a huge football fan & most of the studs that I follow on Instagram run on the treadmill. However, a lot of the fullbacks, midfielders, & forwards have really strong aerobic systems. I used to play competitively for Surf Academy and we always did fartlek type workouts in the offseason to build our endurance.

I can only imagine how these guys train, world footballers are all incredible runners in my eye. Gareth Bale was known to be a great runner & if you don’t know who he’s search his goal against Barcelona in the Copa De Rey Final to hand them the win.

Unaware of anybody (except you) making the claim that all footballers were fast distance runners. Footballers run a lot but they combine sprints with jogging and even walking. Distance running is the only sport where athletes run at a sustained pace for the entire duration of the competition.

This guy makes 6 figures a week and has a supermodel girlfriend,surely he must be a poster on here.

Guys, these people are professional footballers... fitness is their job. They get paid £100,000 or more A WEEK (disgusting btw) and they train at least 5 days a week. They have been training for 15+ years.

However, he will be sold by utd in the summer as he is crap.

No s***. A professional footballer has better fitness than the average person? Who would have thought it...

This forum sometimes...

All premiership footballers can easily run 5k faster than 20 flat. They have been doing a variety of fitness training from a young age... at least 15 years. They are fitter than 99.99999999999% of the population.

This isn't darts or snooker people.

Just something else Lingard is pretty average at

I am waiting for the inevitable never interacted with people in general person who will claim that any untrained person can run a sub 40 10k. I joined a walk along a canal path (hence dead flat) with assorted people my wife knows, after half a mile the general opinion was that this was a long way and best to turn back. None were obese. It led me to wonder how many people have never moved 5 miles on foot in one go. I would suspect that this is way higher than most people here would imagine.

.InjuryProne. wrote:

I’m a united fan...linegard sucks.

What kind of fan are you if you can't even spell his name right? Glory Hunter. Go support the Scouse.

Here's my wager. There's not a single person on this board who (1) has a physique like Lingard. (2) Runs the same 5k/10k times (3) Could complete a single fitness training session at his club (4) Could replicate his gym sessions.

I'm talking about meeting all four of those standards. So I'm taking his footie talent completely out of it, not asking you to hit a crossbar from 30 yards or dribble past VvD, just saying be as "fit" as he is. Not a single person on this board could do that. You might have the physique, beat his times, lift as much, but not be able to replicate the fitness drills, etc.

Moby Dick wrote:

.InjuryProne. wrote:

I’m a united fan...linegard sucks.

What kind of fan are you if you can't even spell his name right? Glory Hunter. Go support the Scouse.

Here's my wager. There's not a single person on this board who (1) has a physique like Lingard. (2) Runs the same 5k/10k times (3) Could complete a single fitness training session at his club (4) Could replicate his gym sessions.

I'm talking about meeting all four of those standards. So I'm taking his footie talent completely out of it, not asking you to hit a crossbar from 30 yards or dribble past VvD, just saying be as "fit" as he is. Not a single person on this board could do that. You might have the physique, beat his times, lift as much, but not be able to replicate the fitness drills, etc.

I actually think quite a few of us could do that...

600yd/600m man wrote:

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1268212/Jesse-Lingard-Man-Utd-5km-10km-times-instagram/amp

Unimpressive. Discus.

Editor's note: He completed his 5km run in 18 minutes and 29 seconds, with an average pace of 3:42 per kilometre.

His 10km effort was done in 39 minutes and 26 seconds, with an average of 3:55 per km.

I am not a huge fan of these soccer does or does not equal a fast 5K. Based on high school T&F teammates who played soccer, soccer players tend to do best 400m & 800m in track & field and based on D-1 soccer players who were in physical education courses in college with me. There are rare elite soccer players who are best at 100m & 200m and others at 800m & 1500m. Soccer really isn't a sport for 5000m specialists.

Agreed. I think the likes of C Ronaldo can run sub-2 for 800m, but I highly doubt a sub-16 or even sub 17 in the 5000.

Btw, the dude here looks pretty skinny for someone who plays soccer and I did a bit of googling. his BMI is only 21, not your typical offender (C ronaldo at 24). I guess that helps as well.

I would be very surprised if any high-level soccer player would turn out to be good at distance running. It is like being surprised that Usain Bolt cannot run a 15min 5K and arguing that he should train to improve his 5K times if he wants to get faster on the 100m.

For these guys ,reaction times and sprinting speed is critical; a soccer field is only a little more than 100 yards. Genetically, you need to be a fast-twitch guy to be a good soccer player, being able to run a 15 min 5K is not only irrelevant, but probably detrimental to a good soccer performance. There was a video circulating some time ago that showed that Cristiano Ronaldo (if I remember correctly) was almost as fast as a national caliber 60m specialist.

Soccer players are in the 400m category of athletes. Unless you're technically extremely gifted you're unlikely to get through the academy system if you're not explosive.

Overall I'd predict that impressive times for these guys at anything above 800m would be rare. The matches at an elite level are played at a high intensity and are very physically demanding but there's still a lot of stop and starting during the game.

Vincent luis finished 2nd at French XC championship over 11k, beating 13:11/27:36 European champion Morhad Amdouni and beating 13:10 5k runner Hassan hirt with a giant gap of 1:07, although XC is not track, that's still impressive. Another time he almost broke 30:00 on a muddy XC course and was probably around sub 28:00 10 000m shape at this time. He was running twice a day 6 times a week with multiple time Olympic and World medalist Mahiedine Mekhissi and he was beating him regularly on slower than 5k pace workouts. Mekhissi said that with optimal training and recovery, Vincent could run and do well in Tokyo over 10 000m. That was once his dream but he decided in 2018 to leave his training group and go 100% for triathlon (he makes now more than 1M a year with all his sponsors like Redbull or Nike, races bonus and TV, because he's a big star in his country, bigger than any French runner) so he decided to train only with triathletes like Mario Mola etc.. This decision paid because he's now the world champion but he is not that good at running anymore. And remember Vincent isn't even the best runner in world triathlon. I think you are under estimating a lot triathletes, some of the best are running like professional runners (two times a day almost everyday) AND are biking and swimming at least once everyday.

optimist wrote:

people like you are responsible for huge misconceptions. there exist marginally few triathletes who ever broke 30 on a proper measured course (brownlee is certainly an an exception with 28)!!! moreover, footballers need fast twitching muscles for sprints, which are detrimental for endurance!!! you better inform yourself, before you make such baseless claims...

Sorry, I was talking to this guy

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

18 minutes and 29 seconds,

not bad for JV. Which high school does he play for?