Jim Walmsley 31+ Mile Run with 1772 ft elevation gain at 5:33/Mile

He's probably in 2:10 shape right now.

Trials may be fast or tactical race. His outcome depends a lot on his tactic as he always performs better when he runs hard from the gun.

probably some his friends did the run and uploaded on jim' strava

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

I don’t want to fanboy over him but I do like Walmsley, and I think he’s going to be fitter at trials than people think

Of course he will be fitter than people think because idiots on here think he can't break 2:15.

trooth wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

I don’t want to fanboy over him but I do like Walmsley, and I think he’s going to be fitter at trials than people think

Of course he will be fitter than people think because idiots on here think he can't break 2:15.

I think a lot of skeptics here on LRC are coming around to respecting Walmsley as a very talented distance runner.

The bigger issue for many LRC "idiots" like myself is that 2:07-2:08 is not good enough to compete against the best in the world. Not even close.

Walmsley's talented.

It's just too bad the Olympics doesn't run a 50k+ distance.

imagine that wrote:

What is amazing is that all 31 miles were above 7,000 feet and on very dangerous very high altitude climate. He will win the trials definitely.

I lived and ran in 9000ft and up and it wasn't dangerous.

Jim and I won't win the trails that's the only thing we will have in common.

Race day wrote:

He's probably in 2:10 shape right now.

Trials may be fast or tactical race. His outcome depends a lot on his tactic as he always performs better when he runs hard from the gun.

Does he have decent enough speed to handle a typical 2:10 guy in a battle in the final 400?

The goalposts getting moved again as he continues to prove he is legit. First Jim couldn't break 2:20. ok ok he could break 2:20 but he definitely can't run 2:15. ok ok maybe he could run 2:15 but he DEFINITELY can't run the qualifying time. ok ok maybe he could run the qt but he doesn't have a chance of a top 10 finish in the trials. etc etc

Soon they'll be accepting he's pretty good but not legit until he beats Kipchoge. Of course there is the other side of the coin as well who are way over the top in their predictions for Jim's marahon time.

From the start there has been a middle ground between the two extremes who suggest Jim can run in and around 2:10 - 2:11. This seems logical looking at his training.

first reasonable walmsley post in LRC history

Skeptics wrote:

The bigger issue for many LRC "idiots" like myself is that 2:07-2:08 is not good enough to compete against the best in the world. Not even close.

He won’t have to for the trials. No one in the US other than Rupp can compete with the best in the world.

That's quite a training run! This dude has been tearing it up for years now, incredibly durable, great range, and just does some monster training.

But wait, he doesn't eat meat, is mostly vegan, and eats high carbs much of the time! How is this possible? Some of the #1 most respected nutrition experts on here, like.....wait, it's been awhile, what's his name, that old carnivore dinosaur on here who is aways going off on vegans, and vegan runners like Sage, and always touting a high red meat diet? Anyway, that guy, whatever his name is, tells us CONSTANTLY that no meat vegetarian/vegan diets are impossible to sustain, and that these athletes can never succeed on such a diet.

I'm taking his word for it. Walmsley must be lying. Either about his diet or his accomplishments. This just doesn't add up, unless........that "high carb/no meat diets are the devil!" dude is wrong....? No, he always sounds so sure of himself. He can't be wrong. Walmsley must be a fake. And allllllll the other top ultra athletes past and present who say they eat/ate little to no meat (Jurek, Kouros, Jornet, Krar, etc, etc) must be fakes too.

(ok, just looked up that clown, er I mean, diet expert's posting name: YMMV. Yes, THAT guy)

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

That's quite a training run! This dude has been tearing it up for years now, incredibly durable, great range, and just does some monster training.

But wait, he doesn't eat meat, is mostly vegan, and eats high carbs much of the time! How is this possible?

......

And allllllll the other top ultra athletes past and present who say they eat/ate little to no meat (Jurek, Kouros, Jornet, Krar, etc, etc) must be fakes too.

(ok, just looked up that clown, er I mean, diet expert's posting name: YMMV. Yes, THAT guy)

That was pretty funny. I still don't get why people are so into what others eat. Makes no sense.

First,

I don't know why meat (or is it really just beef?) fanatics are so tourqued off by people who eat differently than they. It doesn't seem that Walmsley gets an extreme amount of hate for it, but Sage does. As pointed out, many of the top ultra runners of all time eat like Sage. Why does it offend?

Next,

It seems to me that every time Jim runs there is a thread about it. Or is it just hard days, and there are easy days in between generating no thread? It certainly must be every long run, but there have been speedwork ones and of course the half...... This has to be the doing of his team. Agent, spouse, intern at shoe company, maybe himself. It seems far-fetched that someone not working for him and with nothing at stake just randomly starts these threads. All very calculated.

He ran 4:01 and ~13:50 iirc in college. So decent enough speed, not quite what the other guys might have done. Of course, he doesn't have that kind of speed now.

just 2 things..... wrote:

It seems far-fetched that someone not working for him and with nothing at stake just randomly starts these threads. All very calculated.

Lol what? Fans start threads (or conversations, social media posts, etc) of people they admire all the time. This is a running forum. People are talking about someone’s running.

I really doubt anyone in Jim’s corner specifically are starting the threads. For that matter, I think most threads that are started about someone specific are NOT started by that person. It’s just what the haters use to say to try to make that person seem desperate or irrelevant.

He will lead the race until he makes a wrong turn at mile 24 and get lost.

hoka one one innovation wrote:

That’s a long run on the road for a trail runner. Anyone know what shoe he did this run in, is it the carbon x or some version of it?

Probably a new Hoka model that isn't released yet. They are launching at least 2 new models this year, which are the Clifton Edge and also a lighter carbon plate shoe.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

I don’t want to fanboy over him but I do like Walmsley, and I think he’s going to be fitter at trials than people think

Anyone with half an ounce of sense can see he's extremely fit and training well right now. It's literally just the LR trolls who don't understand running.

Japanese marathoners are known to go out for 30 mile long runs at a hot pace like that, yes. They go to Flagstaff a lot and I’ve heard of them doing that kind of run.

I would absolutely love him to finish top 3 in OT, and turn down the Olympics.

The meltdown on here would just be fantastic.