How can D1 school not have an outdoor track

No track at Gonzaga. Unlike basketball, not a national power in CC/T&F but strong regionally in CC. Pat Tyson's doing a great job building the program.

Running wise? yes. Anything else? nope

Y o Y • wrote:

Were schools drinking when they decided not to have an outdoor track? Sienna, URI and many D2 like queens of Charlotte. Like how can they even expect to get runners that take it seriously

What makes you think URI doesn't have an outdoor track? It's by the intersection of West Alumni Ave and Plains Road.

As a collegiate runner in Rhode Island, I can assure you, Google Maps is lying. That track does not exist. They do have an indoor flat track though.

Portland has plans to build a track on the lower campus.

Its impossible to respect programs like Queens. Half of their team are foreigners. Just look at their roster... Kenya, Germany, England, France, Maryland, Mexico, the list goes on. They wait until these foreigners are full-grown men, offer them full rides with their massively inflated budget (the NCAA doesnt account for alumni donations), and then dominate their region... yet they STILL cant perform on a national D2 level. What a JOKE.

https://queensathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=mtrack

Track is condemned. Last meet there was a HS meet, spring of 94 my senior year. Damn shame, seeing football team has a handful of winning seasons last 30 years, with 85 guys on scholarship. At a state school, damn shame.

St URI that is

Kvothe wrote:

Ask Georgetown.

+1

We have a flat 200m indoor track in the student athletic center but have to ask the local school of music to use their (yes, their) 320m track they otherwise exclusively use for marching band practice

Queensisajoke wrote:

Its impossible to respect programs like Queens. Half of their team are foreigners. Just look at their roster... Kenya, Germany, England, France, Maryland, Mexico, the list goes on. They wait until these foreigners are full-grown men, offer them full rides with their massively inflated budget (the NCAA doesnt account for alumni donations), and then dominate their region... yet they STILL cant perform on a national D2 level. What a JOKE.

https://queensathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=mtrack

Not saying I disagree with your point, but come on. Maryland? I know Baltimore is a sh!thole but it's not Sudan or anything

I don’t think you understand how scholarships work. The NCAA limits them. It doesn’t matter how much money they bring in. Many P5 schools have hundreds of millions of dollars but they can’t use more than 12.6 scholarships regardless.

I ran for two D1 schools, both with top 25 ranked cross country / middle distance programs. At the time one had a track, the other did not (the other added a track about 8 years after I left). The one with a track had a more well rounded program, but both had competitive distance programs. At the one without a track, we would run over to the high school and use their track, which gave us a good warm up. My high school had no track, so we would do our workouts in the streets or at one of the city parks [and my brothers and I were state champions or state runners up in the 400, 800 and 1600 (I also qualified in the 200 as well)]. The beauty of running is great facilities are not a pre requisite for success. Just ask the East African distance runners and Caribbean sprinters that are omni-present in the Olympics. Most of them grew up training on dirt. You can train for running anywhere. One of the worst injuries I had in college (torn plantar fascia) came from training too much in spikes on a track.

That’s why you’re not suppose to wear spikes for workouts

Suppossed not suppose.

alexrunsmiles wrote:

As a collegiate runner in Rhode Island, I can assure you, Google Maps is lying. That track does not exist. They do have an indoor flat track though.

Trackboi15 wrote:

Track is condemned. Last meet there was a HS meet, spring of 94 my senior year. Damn shame, seeing football team has a handful of winning seasons last 30 years, with 85 guys on scholarship. At a state school, damn shame.

Interesting, I was home in RI in the winter and went to get in a workout but the outdoor track was covered in snow, so I used the indoor track. How does a track get condemned? Why would a D1 school let it get that bad/not decide it was worth fixing? And presuming the track still physically exists there, can't it still be run on (just deteriorated a bit)?

Queensisajoke wrote:

Its impossible to respect programs like Queens. Half of their team are foreigners. Just look at their roster... Kenya, Germany, England, France, Maryland, Mexico, the list goes on. They wait until these foreigners are full-grown men, offer them full rides with their massively inflated budget (the NCAA doesnt account for alumni donations), and then dominate their region... yet they STILL cant perform on a national D2 level. What a JOKE.

https://queensathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=mtrack

Maybe if more American high schoolers didn't have a sense of entitlement they would realise that going to a D2 like Queens is far more valuable and beneficial than going to a good for nothing program like the D1 20 minutes outside of the city of Charlotte. Instead they would rather be able to say they went to a D1 school and never even saw a regional meet.

Meanwhile Queens out here with other programs like Mount Olive making their region and D2 stronger with the help of internationals.

CheckYourselfAvocado wrote:

Maybe if more American high schoolers didn't have a sense of entitlement they would realise that going to a D2 like Queens is far more valuable and beneficial than going to a good for nothing program like the D1 20 minutes outside of the city of Charlotte. Instead they would rather be able to say they went to a D1 school and never even saw a regional meet.

What school is this, now?

MuttonRouge wrote:

CheckYourselfAvocado wrote:

Maybe if more American high schoolers didn't have a sense of entitlement they would realise that going to a D2 like Queens is far more valuable and beneficial than going to a good for nothing program like the D1 20 minutes outside of the city of Charlotte. Instead they would rather be able to say they went to a D1 school and never even saw a regional meet.

What school is this, now?

Winthrop

Winthrop has a great program in terms of development. Look at where the athletes are coming in and where they are when they leave. Don’t be butt hurt because you couldn’t put in the work :)