"The indictment does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published the emails, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them,"
"Instead, it accuses him of witness tampering, obstruction and false statements about his interactions related to WikiLeaks’ release. Some of those false statements were made to the House intelligence committee, according to the indictment."
Trump’s guys would never destroy evidence! Unless they’re talking to Putin.
Another Nothing Burger? wrote:
"The indictment does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published the emails, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them,"
"Instead, it accuses him of witness tampering, obstruction and false statements about his interactions related to WikiLeaks’ release. Some of those false statements were made to the House intelligence committee, according to the indictment."
And why else would he lie ("false statements"), except to protect Trump?
Maybe he just likes the prevaricational spotlight?
The only "Big News" here is that (cue Ollie North) that lying to Congress is again being prosecuted.
Another Nothing Burger? wrote:
"The indictment does not charge Stone with conspiring with WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy website that published the emails, or with the Russian officers Mueller says hacked them,"
"Instead, it accuses him of witness tampering, obstruction and false statements about his interactions related to WikiLeaks’ release. Some of those false statements were made to the House intelligence committee, according to the indictment."
https://www.apnews.com/1dcac576e9964f3d98b96b8052f61f8c
Yeah, felonies are nothing burgers. If this was an Obama administration under investigation for collusion with the enemy, would you feel the same?
Regarding the raid, he's also someone who has repeatedly posted pictures of himself with weapons. And, if you read the indictment, he threatened another person's life. Don't commit crimes and the FBI won't raid your home.
"Lock him up, lock him up, lock him up..." Karma is a b*tch.
How they got the info aside, CNN should have been removed from the raid site by the FBI, both for safety and publicity reasons. The fact that they weren't makes it more likely that the whole thing was rigged beforehand. The fact that they weren't removed also makes it more likely that the "raid" wasn't taken too seriously operationally in the first place, being only for show (i.e. the cameras).
celery wrote:
Ciro wrote:
He won't be able to use the Proud Boyz as protection ?
If I ever meet you in real life and knew who you were, I would break your nose. You are an evil POS hell bent on seeing innocent people punished. You are my enemy, and the enemy of good people. When the civil war starts, I hope you get what you deserve.
Don't threaten me.
Mueller was appointed in May 2017 to investigate allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia (colloquially known as "the enemy" among initiates).
The indictment against Stone does not allege that Stone or anyone in the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. Mueller has indicted several Trump-campaign associates but has not charged anyone for colluding with Russia.
Not how it's Done wrote:
How they got the info aside, CNN should have been removed from the raid site by the FBI, both for safety and publicity reasons. The fact that they weren't makes it more likely that the whole thing was rigged beforehand. The fact that they weren't removed also makes it more likely that the "raid" wasn't taken too seriously operationally in the first place, being only for show (i.e. the cameras).
Yes, let's focus on the mechanics of the arrest and not the fact that another person in Trump's inner circle was indicted.
Don’t worry, Ciro, I’m using my own name; they’ll try for me first.
is that what happens now arresting political opponents on bogus charges?
Frank Marshall Davis wrote:
Even my liberal friends thought that deploying the cavalry and inviting CNN to film it was a little weird.
You probably do not have any friends.
You certainly do not have any liberal friends.
Ciro wrote:
celery wrote:
If I ever meet you in real life and knew who you were, I would break your nose. You are an evil POS hell bent on seeing innocent people punished. You are my enemy, and the enemy of good people. When the civil war starts, I hope you get what you deserve.
Don't threaten me.
Don't malign the proud boys. What do you have against them? Did you move to the North West like you were planning? You run into them when you're marching with ANTIFA? I hope you try to start a fight with them. They know how to finish fights with little piss ants like you. Or maybe when you're visiting you girlfriends family in Kansas City, you might run into some Proud Boys. They have chapters in every city you know.
Have fun with your tibia and foot stress fractures wimp.
jesseriley wrote:
Don’t worry, Ciro, I’m using my own name; they’ll try for me first.
Not worried, just find it pathetic that someone can get so wound up in defense of a con man getting arrested.
nontrumper wrote:
Yes, let's focus on the mechanics of the arrest and not the fact that another person in Trump's inner circle was indicted.
Indeed,. Another indictment based neither on collusion nor on Russia.
It shows how whacked out Mueller has really become in his desperation.
I can see why he'd rather have CNN broadcasting the Stalin-esque "mechanics" of it all.
celery wrote:
Ciro wrote:
Don't threaten me.
Don't malign the proud boys. What do you have against them? Did you move to the North West like you were planning? You run into them when you're marching with ANTIFA? I hope you try to start a fight with them. They know how to finish fights with little piss ants like you. Or maybe when you're visiting you girlfriends family in Kansas City, you might run into some Proud Boys. They have chapters in every city you know.
Have fun with your tibia and foot stress fractures wimp.
I'll malign who ever I want.
alsal wrote:
is that what happens now arresting political opponents on bogus charges?
I understand why you're panicking. The Trump charade is coming to an end in the coming months. Mueller is just getting started on indictments. "Bogus charges," HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Manafort - bogus. Flynn - bogus. Cohen - bogus. Gates - bogus. HAHAHAHAHA!
Trump and his cronies are f*cked.
The Charges
Count One: Obstruction of Proceedings – This deals with Stone’s “falsely and misleadingly” testifying to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) and lying about the existence of documents requested by the HSPCI.
Counts Two through Six – These counts outline false statements apparently made by Stone whilst giving testimony. They include his denials that he possessed third-party emails relating to the DNC hack, that he had contacted a go-between, and that he communicated to people within the Trump campaign regarding the aforementioned emails.
Count Seven: Witness Tampering – Alleges that Stone attempted to persuade “person 2” (presumably the go-between) in order to influence, delay, and prevent this unnamed person’s testimony.
Celery - it's not a good idea to threaten people online.