Ryan Lochte receives 14-month ban from USADA for improper use of IV -- same thing USADA has tried to nail NOP for

Seriously, this guy has never done anything but swim and he doesn’t know this basic rule?

Did he not realize that one of these vitamins infusions was illegal?

how do they prove this? wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Nick Zaccardi has come up with the photo in question:

https://twitter.com/nzaccardi/status/1021441665414950912

So again, how do they prove anything based on this photo? It seems reasonable to assume that he took more than 100 mL, but a reasonable assumption isn't proof. Couldn't Guido McDoucheface just say "I put the IV in, took the picture, and took it right back out. Prove that I didn't."

They're not banning him based on the photo alone. They said the photo is what prompted their investigation -- and they mentioned that Lochte cooperated fully with the investigation. Maybe he told them how much the infusion was without realizing he broke a rule. Or maybe he just owned up. But they're not banning him solely because of the picture.

wejo wrote:

So he went to one of those hangover cure places and gets banned for being an idiot.

I don't think they wanted to ban him, but they had to because of the photo. Dude is just lounging in a lazy boi like he is relaxing on a Sunday afternoon, and then he uploads the photo.

If they were serious about it, no way would they let him participate in the upcoming Olympics, so they gave him a slap on the wrist for being an idiot.

how do they prove this? wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Nick Zaccardi has come up with the photo in question:

https://twitter.com/nzaccardi/status/1021441665414950912

So again, how do they prove anything based on this photo? It seems reasonable to assume that he took more than 100 mL, but a reasonable assumption isn't proof. Couldn't Guido McDoucheface just say "I put the IV in, took the picture, and took it right back out. Prove that I didn't."

he should have had a pic of him getting an androgel rub down with happy ending and he would be OK

Jonathan Gault wrote:

how do they prove this? wrote:

So again, how do they prove anything based on this photo? It seems reasonable to assume that he took more than 100 mL, but a reasonable assumption isn't proof. Couldn't Guido McDoucheface just say "I put the IV in, took the picture, and took it right back out. Prove that I didn't."

They're not banning him based on the photo alone. They said the photo is what prompted their investigation -- and they mentioned that Lochte cooperated fully with the investigation. Maybe he told them how much the infusion was without realizing he broke a rule. Or maybe he just owned up. But they're not banning him solely because of the picture.

Don't believe that. They are banning him because of the photo. A photo goes out of a USA athlete chilling getting an IV like everything is cool and cozy? Please, they had to save face, because Ryan going unpunished would have caused a huge stir. The act is humiliating to the USADA, and it made it appear that they don't have any national control of its athletes

Let's say you're a parent, and you hear your son curse in the other room. More than likely, you're like whatever, you guys are in your own home, and it is nothing serious. But let's say you are out in public with your son, or at a big family reunion or something, and your son curses, and everyone hears it. Well, you have to punish him because it will appear as if you don't have any parental control of your child.

So yes he is getting banned for being an idiot.

Maybe he can finally retire to pursue a career as a neurosurgeon/professor/engineer/economist.

wejo wrote:But also it sounds like there was no attempt to dope.

When did IV administration become "fun?"

I'm an elite athlete in the international testing pool and I like IVs for fun! Said no one, ever.

Go ahead and write the story now. It will come to pass the IV was for his dog.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

The act is humiliating to the USADA, and it made it appear that they don't have any national control of its athletes

You'd have a point if USADA had any authority to sanction anyone. The swimming federation directs the NADO to process the sanction. The authority to sanction the athlete rests entirely with the federation.

Why do you think not a single word was published by USATF or a single action taken after yet another Salazar doping scheme was made public? Because they have total authority over sanctioning federation coaches/athletes.

I sense amateur IV administration will become a thing very soon.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

wejo wrote:But also it sounds like there was no attempt to dope.

When did IV administration become "fun?"

I'm an elite athlete in the international testing pool and I like IVs for fun! Said no one, ever.

Go ahead and write the story now. It will come to pass the IV was for his dog.

And he fell on the needle.

I've said this before, but limiting the volume of an IV substance is pointless when the mass of the substance is what matters. Just concentrate whatever it is into less than 100ml of water and it's legal.

Unless the rule is really about the water, which is even dumber. IV'ing 200ml of water is not going to rehydrate you better than drinking it. And yes NOP has done that, but they believe in a lot of baloney.

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Nick Zaccardi has come up with the photo in question:

https://twitter.com/nzaccardi/status/1021441665414950912

Wow, this dude. No danger of being mistaken for a Nobel Prize candidate.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

When did IV administration become "fun?"

I'm an elite athlete in the international testing pool and I like IVs for fun! Said no one, ever.

Go ahead and write the story now. It will come to pass the IV was for his dog.

And he fell on the needle.

It was a million to one shot, Doc. A million to one.

So let's look at the bigger picture, you cannot post

pictures of yourself/athlete getting a coffee enema

on social media because of the STASI like USADA?

Lord!

For all we know, even chemical peels should be banned,

or even eating a Skittle and telling the world it's performance

enhancing.

Good golly miss Molly!

El Keniano wrote:

Jonathan Gault wrote:

Nick Zaccardi has come up with the photo in question:

https://twitter.com/nzaccardi/status/1021441665414950912

Wow, this dude. No danger of being mistaken for a Nobel Prize candidate.

I suppose it could be worse, he could caught holding bag of his own blood or claim to have run through epo puddles.

Bad Wigins wrote:

I've said this before, but limiting the volume of an IV substance is pointless when the mass of the substance is what matters. Just concentrate whatever it is into less than 100ml of water and it's legal.

Unless the rule is really about the water, which is even dumber. IV'ing 200ml of water is not going to rehydrate you better than drinking it. And yes NOP has done that, but they believe in a lot of baloney.

Nobody is administering water through an IV. Unless their goal is severe hemolytic anemia. Not even Ryan Lochte is that dumb.

Last Olympics wrote:

Anyway it does seem unfair that Lochte gets a ban when NOP were doing at least the same thing. It is like Chris Froome not being punished at all for having high salbutamol levels in his system while other riders with lower levels of salbutamol in their system did get a ban. It's one thing to have rules but another thing to apply them equally.

^This. Well, the NOP thing only came out because of a leak; USADA of course tried to keep it a secret as per usual instead of banning the involved athletes.

bleu wrote:

Seriously, this guy has never done anything but swim and he doesn’t know this basic rule?

Did he not realize that one of these vitamins infusions was illegal?

^This.

Yet some posters here believe Ritz that he didn't know...

Another point: why did Lochte get only 14 months, when the rule states 2 - 4 years?

You guys are all picking on him because he's stupid. Not nice and not cool at all.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

He is a dumba s s. Athletes are not allowed to receive IV treatment, unless it is being administered in a hospital or medical facility. To my understanding, that is what he was banned for.

He posted a photo of himself getting IV treatment In May, but it was not facilitated by a hospital or MC, and he didn't have a TUE for it.

People will post anything , and they don't realize or concern themselves with the possible repercussions of what they post......desensitized to the point, where privacy is not a concern anymore.

This.