Your Write-Up on Rabat DL 5k is garbage

That analogy would work if there were some elite women could beat elite men, because we’re comparing the best of East Africa to the best of the rest of the world.

There are people from outside of East Africa who run world class times and win medals in middle and long distances. It’s just that those super talents are found less frequently everywhere else than they are in East Africa.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

There are people from outside of East Africa who run world class times and win medals in middle and long distances. It’s just that those super talents are found less frequently everywhere else than they are in East Africa.

Exactly, which further proves my point. Thank you. People from Africa have an obvious and inherent advantage, on this we are all clear. I am glad we can agree on this. Thank you for taking the time to reconsider your original position.

You are now starting to realize why it can be very relevant to note the difference between somebody born in Africa of African descent who moved to Europe and somebody who was born in Europe of traditional European descent.

This might be one of the few times somebody has actually come back to their purse to admit they were wrong. Good on you, Jeff Wigand.

55 Africans and 2 white guys have broken 27:00. Either you deny that genetics matter or you believe we're forbidden to even discuss it for some reason.

Discus Morans wrote:

Exactly, which further proves my point. Thank you. People from Africa have an obvious and inherent advantage, on this we are all clear. I am glad we can agree on this. Thank you for taking the time to reconsider your original position.

I’ve been saying since the beginning that you will find more of those super talents in those handful of East African ethnic groups than you will anywhere else in the world.

Discus Morans wrote:

You are now starting to realize why it can be very relevant to note the difference between somebody born in Africa of African descent who moved to Europe and somebody who was born in Europe of traditional European descent.

I agree on the relative scarcity of comparable performances, but when Sondre Moen won the Fukuoka Marathon, it was still a genetically gifted, extremely talented person winning.

Hardloper wrote:

55 Africans and 2 white guys have broken 27:00. Either you deny that genetics matter or you believe we're forbidden to even discuss it for some reason.

You replied to the wrong person. I’m the one saying the same thing you are.

Discus Morans wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

55 Africans and 2 white guys have broken 27:00. Either you deny that genetics matter or you believe we're forbidden to even discuss it for some reason.

You replied to the wrong person. I’m the one saying the same thing you are.

I know, it was directed at the thread in general not you

Jeff Wigand wrote:

I agree on the relative scarcity of comparable performances, but when Sondre Moen won the Fukuoka Marathon, it was still a genetically gifted, extremely talented person winning.

It's only because of the scarce performances like Sondre Moen that we know how big or small the genetics gap is. Before Solinsky or Ryan Hall, we debated if it was even possible for a white guy to break 27 or 2:06. That's why those performances were significant.

How about referring to athletes national/continental status with "while currently (or then) assigned to pay taxes in Europe/US/Africa/Asia/Australia/Etc"