You be the judge: Do you see a false start in this video?

Schippers has a pattern wrote:

Secondly, this seems to be a thing for Schippers. Does anyone remember a recent Diamond League race where she false started, then ran under protest and won off of the second start?

They ended up giving her the win, even through her false start was FLAGRANT. The very knowledgeable TV commentators (CBC in Canada) were amazed. They felt that any runner other than her (she was the meet's main attraction, in the final race) would have be DQd and sat out of the second start.

Here it is:

(Play from 1:50^)

Lane 3 for sure. DQ that ash.

Yes, Lane 3 clearly went before the rest of the field.

Lane 2 didn't come set. You can't be moving in the blocks when the gun goes off.

Lane 6 looks like she jumps - to my eye it is far more obvious than lane 3.

you wouldnt be able to see it wrote:

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

Another vote for lane 3 going slightly before the field. Whether or not it is a false start we can't say, since we don't see the gun.

seeing the gun is irrelevant. You wouldn't be able to tell. false starts can happen even if you don't move until after the gun

More fuel for "you can't tell from the video":

Sound travels 1088 ft/sec. That's almost 100 ft in .1 sec. It's impossible to tell where the camera is; if it's a telephoto lens they could be mid-track or further. Likely they are set up at the top of the turn, perhaps 40 feet away. There's also the complication that the audio and video may not be in sync.

The more circumstantial evidence is lane 3 moving before the field.

The concrete evidence comes from the electronic timer itself.

What good does this thread do except sensationalize your anti-technology bias?

Lane 3 anticipated...almost a perfect start, but not to be.

hhhhhhhhh wrote:

Impossible to tell from the video since you can’t see the starting gun smoke.

this.

Schippers has a pattern wrote:

First of all, this was INCREDIBLY obvious. I am not a track official, and without reading a word of this before watching, I spotted lane 3 jumping, in the real-speed video, while eating lunch at my desk.

Secondly, this seems to be a thing for Schippers. Does anyone remember a recent Diamond League race where she false started, then ran under protest and won off of the second start?

They ended up giving her the win, even through her false start was FLAGRANT. The very knowledgeable TV commentators (CBC in Canada) were amazed. They felt that any runner other than her (she was the meet's main attraction, in the final race) would have be DQd and sat out of the second start.

Absolute rubbish.

You might have seen her first out of the blocks, but without the gun smoke, you don't know if it was before the gun.

Wrong. No need for "gun smoke" and you would have to be an idiot to base judgement on that.

All of the other athletes moved simultaneously. Schippers clearly jumped at LEAST 0.10s before the rest.

Elite female sprinters react in 0.15, plus-or-minus 0.02 (

).

So of course any moron can tell that Schippers reacted in less than the legal minimum 0.10s.

"Gun smoke" lolololol

There's some movement in lane three but not enough to warrant a false start in my opinion!

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Lane 3 was clearly out before the others. I haven't read any comments yet.

The athlete in Lane three goes slightly before the rest. If they have timing blocks it could well be under the 0.10 threshold.

rojo wrote:

I don't want to let you know what this video is. Just watch it and tell me if you see a false start or not. If so, which lane.

Here it is in real-time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stX288Upo1w

and slow-mo:

https://youtu.be/QmFIX9rc73U

Sometimes it seems like lane 4, other times lane 3.

I'll go with lane 3.

Lane 3 noticeably got out the fastest. Can't say for sure if it was a false start, though.

*I haven't read any of the other comments for an unbiased opinion

LetsRun.com wrote:

1) She 100% should have been allowed to run under protest

I wish it was better known this isn't actually in any rules, not at least as far as I know. I get that we tend to do it here in America, bu there's really nothing to protest, especially if the blocks have registered you as a FS. It's not really fair to the rest of the runners to have to run against someone who is no longer a competitor.

Lane 3 false started, no question. Lane 4 might have a little bit of anticipatory movement, but apparently not enough to register on the blocks, which did have sensors and wires going to them.