Josh Kerr breaks NCAA record 3:35.01!! @Clay Invite

Well deserved hate too, since Knights followers spend their time disrespecting the competition.

If you were to hate on Knight (because you feel you need to), you should hate because he only has the 6th fastest 5000m all time College time, that he never won an outdoor 5000m or 10000m title and that he only has one indoor title.

Not because he has the 7th fastest 1500m time. How many of the top 10 guys also have a XC title?

djleff2f wrote:

I thought Knight was the next big thing. The superstar. What happened?

Huh? He just won the NCAA xc champs. He's not a 1500 guy. Use your brain.

gbkgbl wrote:

Vfvtffftvf wrote:

Knight is now 7th all time on NCAA 1500m list. How high on the list do you expect him to be? He is a 5000m/10000m guy.

Olympic/WC 1500m medalists like Centro, Manzano, Lagat... did not run as fast as Knight during their NCAA career.

Other distance NCAA all time greats such as Ches, Lalang... also never ran that fast while in College.

lol. Here come the Knight apologists. Clearly, by the way you people put Knight on a throne and threw all kinds of hyperbole around when talking about him, he should be 1st on the NCAA 1500 list by a wide margin.

Knight is a 1500/5000 guy. He's run many more 1500's than 10000s. The other guys just didn't have a monster like Kerr to pull them to a 3:36

LetsRun, where losing to the best runner in the NCAA (in an off-event, and while running a top-10 collegiate time) makes you a dismal failure. What a nutter this guy is.

Sam Prakel in 3:36.8! Been great watching him run at Oregon, he kicked my ass in high school big time, but it didn’t occur to me that he might have a pro future at the time.

No neurons wrote:

djleff2f wrote:

I thought Knight was the next big thing. The superstar. What happened?

Huh? He just won the NCAA xc champs. He's not a 1500 guy. Use your brain.

Oh no, here come the Knight followers! Is he not the second coming of Christ? Tell me more about how he easily blows everyone away. Are you sure he is a 5000/10000 runner? Seemed to have been easily defeated in the 5000 by someone hardly ever mentioned.

3:36 is pretty good for an NCAA XC champ and primarily 5k guy during his collegiate career. As the statistics show, few collegiate guys have ever run that time.

I said it before, but if he stays healthy and motivated, Justyn Knight will retire as the best North American-born mid distance runner of all time. Already has shown to have some of the best 1500m to 10k talent to ever pass through the NCAA system.

gbkgbl wrote:

No neurons wrote:

Huh? He just won the NCAA xc champs. He's not a 1500 guy. Use your brain.

Oh no, here come the Knight followers! Is he not the second coming of Christ? Tell me more about how he easily blows everyone away. Are you sure he is a 5000/10000 runner? Seemed to have been easily defeated in the 5000 by someone hardly ever mentioned.

Get help, bud.

Nice job, Justyn. Way to drop a huge steamer on all but 6 or so* runners who have competed at the NCAA level in history.

* not sure about the exact number due to the Ryan/Lagat discussion above and don’t care, to be honest

Nice surprise. Mostly we've seen him as a good tactician with a big kick.

Incredibly smooth form

guy with a question for ya wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Didn't Lagat run 3:30 whilst in college?

I don't see how Jim Ryun is the holder of any collegiate records unless you twist the rules to make it so.

Either it's Kerr for running the fastest time in the NCAA season as defined by the NCAA.

Or it's Lagat for running the fastest time as a college athlete.

I don't see where Ryun comes in at all?

Was Lagat still on the team after the 1999 track and field championships?

I could be wrong about any of this, but I think the situation is as follows:

Bernard Lagat ran 3:30.xx twice in August 1999. 4th Aug in Monaco he ran 3:30.61 and a week later in Zurich he ran 3:30.56, but he had finished with college on 6th June that year after the NCAA finals in Boise, Idaho where he finished 4th in the 1500m in 3:48.88 behind Clyde Colenso (SMU) 3:47.54 and Seneca Lassiter (Arkansas) 3:47.67. he also won the 5000m in 14:01.09. I think you'll find the fastest 1500m he ran whilst in college was 3:34.48 in Stuttgart 19-Jul-1998.

the fastest 1500m by a collegian is 3:33.07 Kip Cheruiyot (Mt. St. Mary's) Grosseto, Italy 10-Aug-1986. the fastest 1500m by a collegian who was an American citizen is 3:33.1 Jim Ryun (Kansas) Los Angeles, California 8-Jul-1967.

Josh Kerr Jr. (New Mexico) 3:35.01 at the Brian Clay Invitational, Cougar Stadium, Azusa, CA 20-Apr-2018 breaks Sydney Maree's NCAA record of 3:35.30 set at Baton Rouge, Louisiana 6-Jun-1981, and it breaks both the Azusa Pacific University Stadium Record and the Bryan Clay Invitational Meet Record both of which were previously held by Ross Millington (New Mexico) at 3:41.17 from 2012.

amendments appreciated.

cheers.

I am a bit underwhelmed. It is slower than Todd Harbour's NCAA mile record of 3:50 ... which he set ... like 37 YEARS AGO!

Etan Thomas wrote:

Nice job, Justyn. Way to drop a huge steamer on all but 6 or so* runners who have competed at the NCAA level in history.

* not sure about the exact number due to the Ryan/Lagat discussion above and don’t care, to be honest

Nice job Justyn? He just got the biggest steamer of all time dropped right on top of his head.

Wha happened? wrote:

Etan Thomas wrote:

Nice job, Justyn. Way to drop a huge steamer on all but 6 or so* runners who have competed at the NCAA level in history.

* not sure about the exact number due to the Ryan/Lagat discussion above and don’t care, to be honest

Nice job Justyn? He just got the biggest steamer of all time dropped right on top of his head.

Nope, that was NCAA indoors over 3000m. Knight has a better PR than Clayton Murphy and has never even run this event at NCAAs before. He’ll be happy with this, and he also just PRd by over 3 seconds.

PrZ wrote:

Wha happened? wrote:

Nice job Justyn? He just got the biggest steamer of all time dropped right on top of his head.

Nope, that was NCAA indoors over 3000m. Knight has a better PR than Clayton Murphy and has never even run this event at NCAAs before. He’ll be happy with this, and he also just PRd by over 3 seconds.

He should be embarrassed he got crushed by a younger collegian. He tapered for this race and thought he was going to win. He tried so hard but he just doesn't have speed.

djleff2f wrote:

I thought Knight was the next big thing. The superstar. What happened?

Huh?

3:36 and second-fastest active NCAA runner in the event.

NCAA 5k champ.

NCAA XC champ.

WTF is a "superstar" to you, sir?

EAC Edinburgh Athletics Club. World’s top 1500m club at the moment. O’hare, Wightman, Kerr. The Scots are ruling at the moment.

I assume Ribich got the D2 @ record at 3:37?