This picture is NOT that of Mo with his training partner but is that of Mo with the famous Italian soccer star Pirlo who is now playing in the US (MLS).
This picture is NOT that of Mo with his training partner but is that of Mo with the famous Italian soccer star Pirlo who is now playing in the US (MLS).
Anybody could pace Mo for maybe half his workout interval.
Mo trains in Oregon, Utah, Arizona, London, Ethiopia. He does not have a training partner. Much more likely Schippers is juicing. The jaw line, lat muscles, and acne not to mention the idea of a former hep competitor running sub 22 makes is almost a guarantee.
company you keep wrote:
That's a lot of shady company to keep.
Wow almost like there are a lot of shady people in track and field. Everyone is dirty, maybe Mo is maybe he isn't but if he was clean he would be hard pressed to not be associated in multiple ways with at least 2 or 3 dirty people.
This looks like a rehash of an old documentary and another desperate attempt to link a "doping story" to Farah to make the story, and perhaps the story tellers, famous.
Here is another interesting find for more information about Freddy and the EPO he bought:
- About "Freddy": “He would go out to the road in the morning he was here and try to join the British team when they trained, asking if they would pay him to pace for them. He is trouble man, the guy is desperate for money."
- it gives us the names of the undercover reporters, and when they stayed at the camp
- tells us that the Sunday Times paid for Freddy's stay at the camp during the making of the documentary
- shows the "medicine" vials were found in the room of the journalist making (staging) the video (but at a much later date than the suggested timeline in the video)
- the camp staff viewed the journalists as suspicious, as they never ran or ate at the camp, but rather made frequent trips to Eldoret
- and suggests that the discovery of EPO in the bin was also staged by the very journalists that asked Freddy to help them by EPO (maybe even the very same boxes)
For everyone who thinks Seppelt is an investigative journalistic hero, he has done six or seven documentaries now about doping in Kenya, and as far as I can tell, has only shown that if you pretend to be a European agent with money, you can find someone to buy EPO, and you can find doctors and pharmacists making claims to get your money. None of these documentaries seem to have shed any real light into elite athletes' doping. Even after interviewing Matthew Kisorio, promising that there are more juicy details to come, all Seppelt could share with us is that Matthew was told everyone else was doing it. Seems like a good investigative journalist should at least be able to tell us who supplied Matthew with drugs. In baseball, after three swings, and three misses, you are out.
Yes I see what you mean.
A wide-eyed 25 year old fan of Kenyan athleics fan is where we should turn for the unvarnished truth on Kenyan arhletics.
Maybe not Kenyan athleics(sic) or Kenyan arhletics(sic). He only speaks about the HATC camp after having spent four months there mingling with the athletes, and offers us many concrete details not in the ARD documentary to set more context for Seppelt's reconstruction of events.
FanTruth wrote:
Yes I see what you mean.
A wide-eyed 25 year old fan of Kenyan athleics fan is where we should turn for the unvarnished truth on Kenyan arhletics.
rekrunner wrote:
Maybe not Kenyan athleics(sic) or Kenyan arhletics(sic). He only speaks about the HATC camp after having spent four months there mingling with the athletes, and offers us many concrete details not in the ARD documentary to set more context for Seppelt's reconstruction of events.
FanTruth wrote:Yes I see what you mean.
A wide-eyed 25 year old fan of Kenyan athleics fan is where we should turn for the unvarnished truth on Kenyan arhletics.
Thanks for opening my eyes, I have re-read the piece and have to say I was completely wrong.
This letter was definitely not written by a gullible fan boy.
I found this part, in particular, incredibly convincing
The athletes I have spoken to over breakfast and dinner, during runs and inside the gym, consistently praise the camp and its commitment to compliance with WADA and international anti-doping laws.
I mean, just the other week I was at an international team's camp in Europe and I lost count of the number of times athletes would just break out with spontaneous praise for the camp's commitment to international anti-doping laws. It's totally just natural conversation.
rekrunner wrote:
Maybe not Kenyan athleics(sic) or Kenyan arhletics(sic). He only speaks about the HATC camp after having spent four months there mingling with the athletes, and offers us many concrete details not in the ARD documentary to set more context for Seppelt's reconstruction of events.
FanTruth wrote:Yes I see what you mean.
A wide-eyed 25 year old fan of Kenyan athleics fan is where we should turn for the unvarnished truth on Kenyan arhletics.
.... and how could anyone not be totally and utterly convinced by this:
Although my naive notions regarding international athletics have largely been shaken over the past four months, I am encouraged by the numerous athletes, agents, coaches and authority figures that have stressed to me their commitment to fighting for a clean sport.
I, for one, will definitely be relying on the verbal reassurances of those with the most vested interest in maintaining the fiction of a clean Kenyan team. Particularly when those verbal reassurances have been "stressed" to somone so gullible that they apprar to have been suprised by revelations that there was wide spread doping going on in international [bold]artherletics[/bold]
"somone"? "apprar"? "suprised"?
You keep trying to make the link to elite Kenyan athletics part of the discussion, just to mock a "25 year old fan boy's" ability to comment on it.
Nothing from Seppelt's documentaries established the link between EPO and any elite Kenyan athletes in international athletics, except for the journalists' own choice to stay at a camp where other elite athletes stay, and their choice to work with and pay "Freddy", someone that is known not to be an athlete, let alone elite, and someone known to offer his services for money from both European athletes/managers/agents.