Driouch ran 3:50 as a 17 year-old. Not sure how fast he ran as a 16 year-old.
Driouch ran 3:50 as a 17 year-old. Not sure how fast he ran as a 16 year-old.
The real question here should be "why does a Norweigian bother with the mile?" It's such a non-event outside the US that bragging rights might even be reversed there!
European peer presure - No value.
European stats - No value.
European sponsorship - No value.
European apperance money - No value.
European T&F interested women - No value.
(Though he might stick around to party in the USA with American girls for the latter a couple of days if successful).
Well if it is a record, that is a good reason to go for it, regardless of nationality.
The mile record is not important. He is a 1500m runner and the season goal is the European junior championship on 1500m.
But the Ingebrigtsen brothers have been on a camp in the USA. They are sponsored by Nike so it makes sense to run at Pre. Good for them that all of the brothers got a spot.
But you are right. Running a fast mile as a Norwegian has no value outside of the USA.
But as a Norwegian in the USA, it is fun that a fellow countryman is the fastest on an American distance. Especially with the focus on the mile and 4 minutes over here.
Jonathan Gault wrote:
It's fairly easy to figure out the youngest American -- that would be Jim Ryun (17 years, 37 days) -- but does anyone know if he was the youngest to ever do it? It might be hard to know as record-keeping for African athletes' birthday probably has not been perfect. But if you think you know someone who was younger, let me know.
I ask this because Norway's Jakob Ingebrigtsen, who will be 16 years, 250 days old on Saturday, is running the International Mile at the Pre Classic. His 1500 PR is 3:42.44, which is worth right around 4:00, so he has a real chance to do it.
Forgot about this kid! Going for the unprecedented stat! Thanks for bringing this up amazing talent/brothers
Halviking wrote:
The mile record is not important. He is a 1500m runner and the season goal is the European junior championship on 1500m.
But the Ingebrigtsen brothers have been on a camp in the USA. They are sponsored by Nike so it makes sense to run at Pre. Good for them that all of the brothers got a spot.
But you are right. Running a fast mile as a Norwegian has no value outside of the USA.
But as a Norwegian in the USA, it is fun that a fellow countryman is the fastest on an American distance. Especially with the focus on the mile and 4 minutes over here.
Isn't the 1500m split being timed? That should be of major interest to Norwegians.
Ghvghghgghggu wrote:
Gruppy wrote:All African claims have an asterisk. I discount them.
So how old do you think Kipchoge is?
He doesn't look 32, that I can tell you
Knowing she would wrote:
Halviking wrote:The mile record is not important. He is a 1500m runner and the season goal is the European junior championship on 1500m.
But the Ingebrigtsen brothers have been on a camp in the USA. They are sponsored by Nike so it makes sense to run at Pre. Good for them that all of the brothers got a spot.
But you are right. Running a fast mile as a Norwegian has no value outside of the USA.
But as a Norwegian in the USA, it is fun that a fellow countryman is the fastest on an American distance. Especially with the focus on the mile and 4 minutes over here.
Isn't the 1500m split being timed? That should be of major interest to Norwegians.
We're not morons and are well aware of the mile and what is a good time. Running a fast mile as a Norwegian has value if its a great performance. The ordinary sports fan doesn't really have much clue about times anyway. Good performance gets an article in the newspapers which is enough.
Peter Andersson wrote:
The real question here should be "why does a Norweigian bother with the mile?" It's such a non-event outside the US that bragging rights might even be reversed there!
European peer presure - No value.
European stats - No value.
European sponsorship - No value.
European apperance money - No value.
European T&F interested women - No value.
(Though he might stick around to party in the USA with American girls for the latter a couple of days if successful).
Then why was there such a fuss over the four-minute mile barrier and why did non-Americans and non-American press make such a big deal over guys like Bannister (British) and Landy (Australian)? Plenty of non-Americans have cared about the mile in subsequent decades. Take your xenophobia elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure the Norwegians know about the mile in track. The Oslo meet hosts the most prestigious mile race on the planet.
I hope he doesn't run 3:42 since it would have absolutely no value.
Of course, track fans know about the mile. But it is not an important distance, it is not raced regularly. The mile at Bislett has a long tradition. But I do not think anyone would be sad if it was changed to 1500.
On another note. I really do not get why anyone has the 1600m distance. Either run 1609m or 1500m.
"Teenage" African times run by 25-year-old dopers are laughable. Don't bother listing them. The best true junior milers have all been European and American.
Gruppy wrote:
All African claims have an asterisk. I discount them.
so a kid from Norway can break 4 but a kenyan cant? lol
Peter Andersson wrote:
The real question here should be "why does a Norweigian bother with the mile?" It's such a non-event outside the US that bragging rights might even be reversed there!
European peer presure - No value.
European stats - No value.
European sponsorship - No value.
European apperance money - No value.
European T&F interested women - No value.
(Though he might stick around to party in the USA with American girls for the latter a couple of days if successful).
It's still a big thing in the UK and the rest of the anglo countries, as it's always been.
Have you heard of 'The Dream Mile'? It takes place in Oslo every year. Oslo is the capital of Norway.
According to this site as of 2016 the fastest mile by an under 17 uk runner was only 4:06 Neither Steve Cram nor Graham Williamson are in the top 10, but Mo Farah is (4:12).
http://www.gbrathletics.com/uk/mu17.htmCram did however run a 3:47 1500m at aged 16 1/2.
This is Steve Cram's first sub 4 minute mile at aged 17 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8-SCVJMW3sAccording to this the record is 4:06. Steve Cram is the under 18 record holder at 3:57
remember this dude wrote:
Wasn't kejelcha 17 years old when he ran 12:53 for 5000m? There has to be a record of him running a 1500m or mile at 15years old just crushing 4minutes.
Kejelcha's own agent says that the "kid" was likely 23 or so when Ethiopian officials were claiming he was 17.
*48 country age group record
Not the sexiest qualifier
Why something like 5 different one mile races on the Diamond League in various years if the mile does not matter?
Halviking wrote:
I really do not get why anyone has the 1600m distance. Either run 1609m or 1500m.
I really do not get why anyone has the 1609m or 1500m distances. Run 1600m.