Jasonlover, I think the reason no one has flamed you is due to something called "Male Mother Sympathy Syndrome". Guys can be guys when they think it is just guys around, but if they think there mothers are listening, then the conversation changes completely. Think about it, a bunch of guys go for a run, they probably talk about what women look like and scratch themselves profusely. Throw one woman into the fold, and lo and behold all the guys start acting their age, not like their age is their IQ level. Of course, if you truly wanted to test this theory, wait for a while and start a similar thread BUT make it sound like it comes from a guy, and I am sure the Trolls will be out in more force that in the "Two Towers".