Why do people say that we'd all be speaking German if we'd lost WWII?

It wouldn't matter if it was German, English, Tagalog or Urdu; the brosjo still wouldn't be able to speak, read or spell it.

The Man in the High Castle wrote:

The Man in the High Castle is now a new TV series that is highly rated--8.3 on IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740299/

I'm 4 episodes in and bored out of my mind. Probably will read the book.

The focus so far on a very few individuals, many very minor playas, is much too narrow, but it is easy to see how that helps keeps production costs under control.

Precious Roy wrote:

Hitler's goal was to establish the Greater German Reich, not take over the entire world. The Greater German Reich was supposed to be about half of France and most of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. The pacifist argument against WWII was to just negotiate with Hitler for the release of and safe passage for the Jews in exchange for giving away some of Hitler's advances (Austria, etc.). This would have been a far favorable alternative than the 50-80 million people who lost their lives in WWII.

So, to the original question, we would not be speaking German if we lost WWII. It was never Hitler's goal to take over the United States.

Correct. And even if he'd wanted to, Germany's navy was nowhere near capable of carrying out a successful amphibious assault on that scale.

Hitler didn't even have the stomach to cross the English Channel. "The Germans are not a seafaring race." LOL

HRE wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Hitler's goal was to establish the Greater German Reich, not take over the entire world. The Greater German Reich was supposed to be about half of France and most of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. The pacifist argument against WWII was to just negotiate with Hitler for the release of and safe passage for the Jews in exchange for giving away some of Hitler's advances (Austria, etc.). This would have been a far favorable alternative than the 50-80 million people who lost their lives in WWII.

So, to the original question, we would not be speaking German if we lost WWII. It was never Hitler's goal to take over the United States.

Correct. And even if he'd wanted to, Germany's navy was nowhere near capable of carrying out a successful amphibious assault on that scale.

Hecate wrote:

It's not that English would be forgotten, it would be that German would become the official language used in education, commerce, government, etc. For example, what happened to the Irish language.

Agree. Winners write history and assimilate/destroy cultures.

Do they not teach that anymore?

Hooker Upper wrote:

Hitler didn't even have the stomach to cross the English Channel. "The Germans are not a seafaring race." LOL

Hitler never wanted war with Great Britain. He was more interested in expanding eastward, He was expecting Great Britain to agree to a peace treaty after the fall of France, but Great Britain did not want peace.

you'rebenevolentmentalmidgets wrote:

It wouldn't matter if it was German, English, Tagalog or Urdu; the brosjo still wouldn't be able to speak, read or spell it.

They really are quite dim.

Precious Roy wrote:

Hitler's goal was to establish the Greater German Reich, not take over the entire world. The Greater German Reich was supposed to be about half of France and most of Eastern Europe and Scandinavia. The pacifist argument against WWII was to just negotiate with Hitler for the release of and safe passage for the Jews in exchange for giving away some of Hitler's advances (Austria, etc.). This would have been a far favorable alternative than the 50-80 million people who lost their lives in WWII.

So, to the original question, we would not be speaking German if we lost WWII. It was never Hitler's goal to take over the United States.

You do realize that over 30 million people, military and civilian lost their lives during the Japanese portion of WWII. The pacifist argument you mentioned would not have prevented any of these deaths.

However, getting back to your point about Hitler, you need to do a little more research. Hitler was all about cleansing all Slavic territories for the Germanic race. Had the Western powers not intervened and defeated Nazi Germany the death toll in Euro/Asia would have been unimaginably higher.

Please read the wiki copy/paste below.

The Nazi policy of Lebensraum was to kill, deport, or enslave the Polish, Ukrainian, Russian and other Slavic populations and other peoples living there considered racially inferior to the Germans and to repopulate Eastern Europe with Germanic people.[6][7][8] The populations of cities were to be exterminated by starvation, thus creating an agricultural surplus that would feed Germany, and thereby allow political replacement by and re-population with a German upper class.[6] The eugenics of Lebensraum explicitly assumed the racial superiority of Germans as an Aryan master race (Herrenvolk), who, by virtue of their superiority (physical, mental, genetic) had the right to displace any people they deemed to be Untermenschen (subhumans) of inferior racial stock.[9]

Sociologically, the Nazis insisted that the Lebensraum lands be developed as racially-homogeneous societies, to be realised by avoiding miscegenation, the intermixing of Germans with native peoples of an inferior race.[7] Therefore, in a territory designated as German Lebensraum, the racially inferior natives, by law, were subject either to being killed, deported, or enslaved by the Nazis.[7] In the course of the Second World War in Europe (1939–45), Nazi Germany supported the Lebensraum politics of officially racist régimes, such as Fascist Italy (1922–43), the Slovak Republic (1939–45), and the Independent State of Croatia (1941–45).[10]

Historically, the concept of the Germans as people without space (Volk ohne Raum) predated Adolf Hitler's ideological application of Lebensraum to the national politics of Germany, about which he said: "We are overpopulated and cannot feed ourselves from our own resources"; hence, the Nazi Party claimed that German territorial expansion was inevitable, because of the critical overpopulation of the Weimar Republic, the smaller, post–WWI Germany designed by the Treaty of Versailles (1919).[11]

Politically, since the 1920s, the Nazi Party had proposed and justified territorial expansion as an inevitable, geopolitical necessity for Germany, which would resolve overpopulation and provide the natural resources required for the well-being of the German people.[11] On 24 February 1920, Hitler announced the National Socialist Program, point three stated: “We demand land and territory [colonies] for the sustenance of our people, and colonization for our surplus population”;[12] that is, Lebensraum specifically from Russia and her vassal states, as noted in Mein Kampf.[13][14] Given the improved Russo–German political relations consequent to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (1939), in the pact's three-year period (1939–41), the Germans told the Russians that Nazi Germany had discarded plans to annex territories from the U.S.S.R., and that Germany would seek Lebensraum in central Africa.[15]

About the international politics of Lebensraum, Hitler said that Germany sought the diplomatic settlement of claims for living space in Europe, which would require that the European powers cede territories claimed by Nazi Germany.[16] Despite the façade of seeking diplomatic settlements to Germany’s claims for living space, the Third Reich prepared war for Lebensraum, because, by the late 1930s, Hitler had realised the militarisation of German society in preparation for Operation Barbarossa (22 June 1941), the eventual and “necessary” war between the peoples of Germany and of Russia.[17] In planning the destruction of Poland, by partition and annexation, Nazi Germany told the Polish Government that if war between Germany and the Soviet Union resulted in Germany taking Lebensraum from the Soviet Union, then Germany would allow Poland the right to annex parts of the Ukraine, whilst Germany annexed more Soviet territory — if Poland were to subordinate herself to Germany, and allow the German annexation of Polish territories. Aware that the proposal would immediately be rejected, the Reich Chancellor, Adolf Hitler, nonetheless proposed that territorial-annexation settlement to the Polish diplomats who sought to forestall the Nazi invasion of Poland (1 September 1939).[18][19][20]

The Third Reich invoked precedents — geopolitical, historical, cultural — to legalistically justify their pursuit of Lebensraum beyond the borders of Germany.[21] Besides the historical examples of the British and French colonial empires, Nazi territorial expansion was justified with the cultural example of Manifest Destiny (1845), the ideological justification for the colonisation, by the white people of the United States, of the “American frontier”, the inhabited North-American lands south of Canada and north of Mexico.[7] Hitler said that the geographic size of the European nation-states was “absurdly small in comparison to their weight of colonies, foreign trade, etc.”, which he contrasted to “the American Union, which possesses, at its base, its own continent, and touches the rest of the Earth only with its summit”; and that colonisation of the continental U.S., by the Nordic peoples of Europe, would create a nation possessed of a great, internal market, of a great capacity for material reproduction, and a fertile land fit for great biological reproduction; hence was North America the ideal Lebensraum proposed by Nazism.[21]

If the French hadn't helped us in the Revolutionary War, we would all be speaking English now.

thejeff wrote:

If the French hadn't helped us in the Revolutionary War, we would all be speaking English now.

Jeez, I wish I'd have thought of that. Good on 'ya mate!

TV watcher wrote:

The Man in the High Castle wrote:

The Man in the High Castle is now a new TV series that is highly rated--8.3 on IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740299/

I'm 4 episodes in and bored out of my mind. Probably will read the book.

The focus so far on a very few individuals, many very minor playas, is much too narrow, but it is easy to see how that helps keeps production costs under control.

^ This

Some believe that Hitler never committed suicide in that bunker in Berlin and escaped to Argentina.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1008044/pg5

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/03/fbi-opens-files-proving-hitler-went-to-argentina-2603372.html

A pic of Hitler supposedly as an old man. If you draw in a mustache, looks like him....

http://s2.postimg.org/7pp0mhh89/1390102690449.jpg

he'd be dead by now. Useless TV show and moot point.

So you are saying that WWII was a war of aggression by Britain?

So what do you think of the outcome?

Speaking Easy wrote:

The Nazis were big on trying to erase/rewrite history and replace everything with their own twisted version of how it should be. A lot like ISIS and Liberals.

Boom.

Liberals, start taking notes here.

The Germans couldn't even make the French speak German, how are they gonna get anyone else to do it?

thejeff wrote:

If the French hadn't helped us in the Revolutionary War, we would all be speaking English now.

LOL, great post.

Thank God Christian conservatives don't try to twist history.

Fity Cent wrote:

Thank God Christian conservatives don't try to twist history.

OP: The Nazis were big on trying to erase/rewrite history and replace everything with their own twisted version of how it should be. A lot like ISIS and Liberals.

Excepting for the troll nature of the "and Liberals" comment at the end, every word of this is true.