RE: welfare lifestyle, 'looking' for a job for 10+ years...

Stop making sense you guys.

The Haven.

If you look thru the slideshow you will see that the oldest daughter is using an Ipad. This is poverty in America?

There are so many ways this can be slowly rectified, starting with making them work in some state or federal agencies that need menial labor done in exchange for the aid they get. Why cant these people be used to collect trash, clean parks, snow removal, clean state and fed offices etc? We keep offering excuses for them to be idle.

Why cant we provide them with subsidized second and third grade fresh fruits and veggies, eggs and dairy ONLY (less meats) with their food stamps instead of the garbage they buy now?

There are lots more ways to reform the current set up..if we are brave enough to take it on and withstand the backlash. Because at this stage, its out of control.

Read the part where she hasn't been able to get a job and the one job she worked at didn't pay her? Or the company that wanted her to pay to be trained? I sort of wonder though why with 50% of the snap and AFDC money going to white people, that they never make the articles like this?

not really wrote:

Read the entire story. They make me sick. Quit having kids and get a job. So sick of deadbeats sponging off of everyone else.

Let's do this wrote:

exthrower wrote:

Put these people in camps where they're forced to work for their benefits and also taught a job skill.No more blank checks paid for by hard working Americans, and, they shouldn't be allowed to vote until they start contributing to society and stop leeching off of it. I'm dead serious...

You're right, they should have to show up somewhere and do something for the handouts. Maybe not a labor camp as you suggest, but at least put in some time and effort.

Problem: Who will watch their children?

Problem solved: Open a bunch of state run day care centers which would be mostly staffed by other people who are required to show up for their handouts.

Yeah. THOSE are the people you want influencing those kids!

Yeah, if you don't like those kind of influences don't get knocked up by 5 different guys.

For males and females one time could be an accident, 2 times really bad luck, after that you are an irresponsible pig.

adsadfsfas wrote:

Read the part where she hasn't been able to get a job and the one job she worked at didn't pay her? Or the company that wanted her to pay to be trained? I sort of wonder though why with 50% of the snap and AFDC money going to white people, that they never make the articles like this?

not really wrote:

Read the entire story. They make me sick. Quit having kids and get a job. So sick of deadbeats sponging off of everyone else.

What job did she work at that did not pay her? There was a job that paid her just enough that it made her ineligible for SNAP.

First, she made a lot of bad decisions. She picked some poor quality guys and let them father the kids. It is her body and her life, she needs to control her body and that means not getting pregnant. That also leads to the childcare issue. Pretty hard to have a minimum wage job and pay for childcare. Dads of the kids sound like real winners. Dads who do not financially support kids are pretty low just above pedophiles to me.

Second, I would be okay with a transitioning system for folks like her that are on SNAP who get a job to keep the benefits flowing for a bit. Assuming she finished HS (I might have missed it), about all you are going to get is a minimum wage job. Give her one year on the job to continue benefits. After a year she should be earning more than minimum wage and the benefits can be dialed back. After 2 years, they are gone.

The best thing that can happen for her and others is for the economy to grow. The old saw about a rising tide holds true here too.

There is a big difference between people that are 'not smart' and people that are flat our lazy. I know guys that just plain dumb but work very hard to support themselves. These are the kinds of people that needs those manufacturing jobs.

There will always be the lazy ones. They don't work hard because they don't have to. If their choice was to work or starve, they would probably work provided there were jobs available.

So, anyone heard of "The Wasted Americans" By Edgar May, 1968, I think?

adsadfsfas wrote:

Read the part where she hasn't been able to get a job and the one job she worked at didn't pay her? Or the company that wanted her to pay to be trained? I sort of wonder though why with 50% of the snap and AFDC money going to white people, that they never make the articles like this?

I got my first job when I was 14. The day after I finished 8th grade, I walked to a restaurant in my neighborhood and asked if they were hiring. I started work the next day.

I don't understand how a full grown adult could be unable to get any job anywhere for such a long time period.

This is another example of the top 1% taking advantage of poor people. We need economic fairness in this country to help people in these situations. Have you heard of the Mincome idea? Kind of like minimum wage but give everyone in this country a flat minimum income. That would be more fair.

libby libster wrote:

Kind of like minimum wage but give everyone in this country a flat minimum income. That would be more fair.

Yes, then the same pigs that are complaining now will be complaining that isn't enough to pay for their 10 kids.

During the protest for $15 minimum wages I saw a guy complaining "I've got a new baby to support how am I going to do it?"

Aren't you supposed to think about that before you conceive a child?

You could guarantee $75k a year to the low class segment of this country, and they would still screw up and ask for more.

Until there consequences for irresponsibility are in place, nothing will change.

Labor force participation rate for heroic male breadwinners has gone from 86.7% in 1948 to 69.4% in 2013.

Labor force participation rate for female welfare slackers has gone from 32% in 1948 to 57% in 2013.

This according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.

I don't have an Ipad, let alone a tablet. So frustrating that these people live better than a lot of Americans that don't accept handouts.

Perfect example of this class of people. That I-Pad probably came from a free giveaway at school where a bunch of politicians acted like they are doing the kids a great service. They get the I-Pad and do nothing bu play games on it and the parent says "what else you got for me" and goes back to complaining.

Since this "mother" is out of work, how much time do you think she spends using that piece of equipment to better themselves through reading, arithmetic and proper use of English?

From the article"yet her last paid work had come five months earlier for a temp agency that had yet to pay her the $170 she was owed." to go along with the uselss "job training" and seminars she has been to.All she and her daughter might be qualified for his minimal wage jobs. But they can't even get those jobs. There are not enough of them to go around.

And is the reason you don't have an ipad a lack of money or lack of desire. Feel free to go live on the handout lifestyle if you think it is better than the one you currently living. I think you will be disappointed.

What I don't understand is why this family blew all $400+ in one shopping trip.

To me it's common sense: if you have $400 to spend on groceries for one month, your weekly food bill needs to be $100 (or less). You're making four trips to the store, but you're going to get fresher foods, and they won't all be gone by the end of the month.

It's hard to have sympathy when you see what was bought with that money: 75 bottles of juice (that's ten bottles of juice per person for the month...what the hell?), 12 boxes of cereal, and 11 packages of cheese.

And when she gets free produce (the sweet potatoes), she immediately makes pies.

Well the other stat is that whites are 42% of the poor but take in 69% of the government benefits. The 2011 food stamp numbers are 33 % white, 22% black and 18% hispanic and the rest unknown Yes blacks are overrepresented but when you read the stories you would think 99% of the people on food stamps are black. Heck there was a recent article that suggest Reagan's welfare queen was actually white:).The white people that get off welfare quickly are the same as the black people that do. The tend to be middle class people that hit hard times (laid off, divorce, medical bills,...) who had a past history of being productive. If you look at the white born to welfare moms, they fare pretty much identical to the blacks. It is easy to criticize other people. They have always done something stupid (smoking, having kids early, picking a bad husband,....) that you can focus in on.

techno crat wrote:

lol, you do know that blacks are only 13% of the population in the USA (hard to believe watching TV I know). Also that 50% of whites on welfare includes Latinos (how convenient). Add to that the fact that whites get off of welfare 3 times faster on average than blacks, and you can see why people are sick of coddling blacks for decades.

adsadfsfas wrote:

Read the part where she hasn't been able to get a job and the one job she worked at didn't pay her? Or the company that wanted her to pay to be trained? I sort of wonder though why with 50% of the snap and AFDC money going to white people, that they never make the articles like this?