Want "Proof" of Mo Farah's Doping? He's reportedly "plotting" a sub-2 hour marathon.

mdsj1970 wrote:

A 60:10 HM converts to 2:05/06 for the full marathon. Unless he can improve his HM time to low 57s he won't be close. I predict a 2:04:30 debut. He doesn't have the 10000m times of either Geb or Bekele to justify 2:03.

2:04:30 debut?

Good grief.

I want you to stop posting.

To quote British athletics announcer, David Coleman, and master of the malprop:"That's the fastest time ever run ... but it's not as fast as the world record."

TheGarbageDisposal wrote:

Nobody caught this gem?

"The marathon world record is 2 hours, three minutes and 23 seconds, set by Kenyan Wilson Kipsang at the Berlin Marathon on Sunday. The previous mark was also set in Berlin, Patrick Makau‘s 2:03:08 in 2011."

Not A Duck wrote:

Of course it wouldn't be proof, just as Lance Armstrong's 7 straight Tour de France titles weren't proof of doping. Mo Farah, before Salazar, couldn't run 10 miles at 2 hr marathon pace, but all he needed was a little bit of work in the gym.

Yeah all that Salazar doping got Farah from being a terrible 12:56 runner to being an amazing 12:53 runner (after just DAYS with Salazar too...WOWZER huh?)..and from a 7:34 guy to a 7:36 guy?

The only places where Farah has made improvements under Salazar are his foot speed, he now has the most wicked kick in the world, and his 1500. That is really it....the 10K doesnt really count as he was clearly in 26:50 shape before he went to Salazar (as evidenced by 12:56), he just hadnt run a fast one yet (he had run all of THREE ever when he switched)

I don't think Mo Farah or any living person can break two hours. I do however believe that there is a psychological barrier there. A four minute mile was believed impossible in 1950. We may get there in 50 years.

The Times article this links to credits a "well-placed source."

I wouldn't read much into it.

tyranny wrote:

Now that would be funny - if he broke the WR by nearly 3 and a half minutes on his first try. That would make Wang Junxia look clean by comparison.

I would be more suspicious of someone just slipping under the WR on their first try than smashing it to pieces.

Someone in WR just happens to be only a few seconds better than the best mark anyone has ever done? That would seem like someone trying not to stand out too much. Sub 2 in the first shot would be a red flag as well; too much of a jump in the other direction. But if Mo ran a marathon and debuted in 2:03:20 that would be a much bigger red flag to me than, say, a 2:01:30 (though a sub 2 would be a bigger flag than either of the other two).

mdsj1970 wrote:

He doesn't have the 10000m times of either Geb or Bekele to justify 2:03.

Neither has Kipsang

[quote]sub3over40 wrote:

I don't think Mo Farah or any living person can break two hours. I do however believe that there is a psychological barrier there. A four minute mile was not believed impossible in 1950. We may get there in 50 years.

Correction above. I left out a "not."

Don't lie. He never ran 12:56 before joining Salazar's group. He ran 12:57.94, so basically 12:58 in 2010 and that was probably after he already started to dope. His previous PR was 13:07 from 2007. And he went from 3:33.98 to 3:28.81, more than 5seconds improvement under Salazar.

Mo is not certain to transition from 10 k to a marathon top. At the moment his strike is too powerful & inefficient for a marathon. More likely to end up a Tadese (at best a strong half marathoner).

For that matter, also Bekele is not well positioned for a marathon transition. Look at others who succeeded to transition (Gebre, Kipkoge, Wanjiru), none of them has the frame & strike of Mo.

Yeah, I'm sure Mo Farah, the guy who doesn't care about times on the track, is going to target a specific (and ridiculous) time in the marathon.

And according to that article, Kipsang just broke the world record by making it slower - so possibly not the best source.

Not A Duck wrote:

105 or so laps wrote:

2 hours for a marathon is 4:34.6 per mile by my calculations.

That's 28:28.0 for each 10 K.

Woof!

It is actually 28:24 per 10k. Your mile is calculations are slightly off.

Actually yours is slightly off the other way, it is 28:26

(120minutes /42.195km = 2.84393886/km or 28:26.4 per 10km

or 4:34.6 mile pace)

If I were Mo, I would absolutely tell everyone I was considering some absurd time. If all the top marathoners know that he only thinks of himself capable of 2:04-2:05, they will just push the pace every time he races and render him a non-factor. However, if they think he is serious about even a sub 2:03, they might be more willing to let up on the pace making his kick more lethal.

Who says the gun has to go off for the race to start?

HE AIN'T GOT ANY ENDURANCE. THAT WAS PROVEN IN HIS HALF MARATHON LOSS TO BEKELE. MO FARAH'S ONLY HOPE OF WINNING A MARATHON MAJOR IS A 2:07+ RACE THAT'S SIMILAR TO HIS TRACK SIT AND KICK WINS.

He's reportedly "plotting" a sub-2 hour marathon. He's obviously either taking PEDs or high on drugs of another variety.

http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/30/mo-farah-marathon/

themanontherun wrote:

tyranny wrote:

Now that would be funny - if he broke the WR by nearly 3 and a half minutes on his first try. That would make Wang Junxia look clean by comparison.

I would be more suspicious of someone just slipping under the WR on their first try than smashing it to pieces.

Someone in WR just happens to be only a few seconds better than the best mark anyone has ever done? That would seem like someone trying not to stand out too much. Sub 2 in the first shot would be a red flag as well; too much of a jump in the other direction. But if Mo ran a marathon and debuted in 2:03:20 that would be a much bigger red flag to me than, say, a 2:01:30 (though a sub 2 would be a bigger flag than either of the other two).

You are not very bright, as evidenced by your post. Either way, there might be about a dozen people on the planet who can currently run 25km at 2 hour marathon pace, and it is not clear whether Mo Farah is one of them.