Ha! "Fist offense" Good one!
Ha! "Fist offense" Good one!
I watched this video and a.) what a controlling, immature, abusive a-hole; b.) the AD who only suspended him after seeing video evidence of this abuse needs to be shown the door along with Rice.
Does this guy have a wife and kids? What are the chances he limits his anger management issues to the basketball court? Damn.
Sad to see the way the students react to the balls thrown at them--they just dodge out of the way and try to carry on, clearly well aware that this is how the guy operates normally.
So it is either the last 3 or 3 of the last 4 basketball coaches at Rutgers have been fired for physically and mentally abusing players. One of them was making one of my former students practice naked. The entire athletic administration needs to be fired and the program needs to be put on probation. As I said in a previous post, this crap goes on at a lot of the big time schools. Calhoun was not a whole lot better at UCONN.
The chances are slim and none. I'd bet his spouse, kids, dog, cat, etc. are all abused in some way.He's lucky none of those players didn't beat the living sh*t out of him.
one word wrote:
I watched this video and a.) what a controlling, immature, abusive a-hole; b.) the AD who only suspended him after seeing video evidence of this abuse needs to be shown the door along with Rice.
Does this guy have a wife and kids? What are the chances he limits his anger management issues to the basketball court? Damn.
Yeah, one of those kids should have gone all Latrell Sprewell on him
I grew up and played football and wrestled in the late 70s and 80s before switching to T&F in 10th grade. Our football coach routinely grabbed us by the face mask and went face to face with us, spitting and spewing, screaming, etc. My wrestling coach rode us hard and worked us to the point of mental and physical exhaustion.
I'm the first one to say many kids today are p*ssies who want be coddled and patted on the back for showing up and breathing. HOWEVER, this guy is completely out of control and abusive. There's a way to be a demanding, harda** coach without being abusive. This ain't it.
The videos being shown blow my mind. I understand that we're only seeing clips, not the entire video, but I'm not sure how seeing more would put Rice's actions into any kind of context that makes any more sense.
I don't follow Rutgers B-Ball, but when you look at the record it's clear that whatever they're doing the entire system needs to change - coaching staff, athletic department commitment, how they recruit, etc - if they want to have any chance of building a program. Last winning season was 05/06. Last 20 win season was 03/04. Only 4 winning seasons the last 21 years!
douchebag dave wrote:
Anyone else see this guy on ESPN?
What kind of nut job is he?
I played h.s. basketball for 2 years, then ran track in college. I've never seen or heard of any coach, at any level, do stuff like that.
What a douchebag.
Obviously, you have never seen or heard of Bobby Knight when he coached at Indiana. He was 10 times worse; but he also won 3 NCAA titles...
Long before he joined ESPN, he tossed chairs, punched out a cop in Puerto Rico, ranted like a madman, yelled at reporters, head butted and choked a player. Mike Rice is no where as bad as Knight was.
Those clips were spliced from 100's of hours of video tape. I'm sure if someone trained a video camera on you for years and years and picked out the worst parts, you'd look pretty awful too.
Here's a legendary gem from Bobby Knight.
http://www.hark.com/clips/dbtgclpgmf-angry-bobby-knight-tired-of-losing-to-purdue
Well for me and many who were raised similar in my generation (baby boomers), in general, have turned out better people then the new generation (In my opinion). If I was 17 or 18 again and my coach acted like that it would not have bothered me. I could see my dad and grandfather supporting him. Personally, I think I would have a better chance of excelling under coaches like Knight and Rice. Surely the players investigated the school and coach before committing to the program. When I younger, treatment like that fired me up, he didn't actually hurt them physically or mentally in my opinion. Maybe they should implement "stress cards or time cards". If you looked closely at the video, looks like he is doing a half as* job just trying to scare them (no really physical harm), and getting them to pay attention. Just a guess here, but I bet he is very close to players off the court, works with each of them on a very personal (Caring) level, and helps them whenever they need him.
one word wrote:
I watched this video and a.) what a controlling, immature, abusive a-hole; b.) the AD who only suspended him after seeing video evidence of this abuse needs to be shown the door along with Rice.
Does this guy have a wife and kids? What are the chances he limits his anger management issues to the basketball court? Damn.
A first I thought you were talking about a certain subset of LRC posters.
But seriously folks, he needs to be more than fired, he needs to be charged with battery in the least.
Could you have used more generalizations that just aren't proven true?
If a coach ever treated one of my kids like that and the AD did nothing, I would make it my life's mission to have that person fired. You can get a kid's attention without being inappropriate. Just ask John Wooden who won far more titles than Bobby Knight.
I coached, and if every one of my practices had been videotaped from start to finish, you wouldn't have found one second of footage where I laid a hand on or threw objects at a student, or used profane or insulting language. It didn't take a whole lot of restraint to accomplish that either. The man is an idiot for behaving that way.
reupublican entertainer wrote:
Those clips were spliced from 100's of hours of video tape. I'm sure if someone trained a video camera on you for years and years and picked out the worst parts, you'd look pretty awful too.
well, their not kids(you can't breast feed them forever), they are adults now, time to let go. Your statement sounds like we talking about little children, get real man.
Yea, sure, no problem. And the next time your boss calls you into his office to discuss how your work performace could be better, I think he should throw his/her stapler at your head and yell "Get back to work you f'ing douchebag."
this is the right answer ... and for those B Knight fans - the same. L Bird didn't leave Indiana for unjustified reasons. Ends don't justify the means. You can be demanding, push your athletes, and not be an idiot. Wooden is the prime example. His players would never have, and didn't, call him 'easy'
is this a girl replying to my post?
Bobby Knight was worse wrote:
Here's a legendary gem from Bobby Knight.
http://www.hark.com/clips/dbtgclpgmf-angry-bobby-knight-tired-of-losing-to-purdue
Thank you for posting that.
Bobby Knight's behavior is as offensive as any coach in sports, but he is lionized as a great coach.
Indiana took forever to get rid of him; heck, Texas Tech turned around and hired him.
ESPN followed suit. Talk about rewarding bad behavior.
If a professor in the Biology Dept. at IU had acted the same way he would have been canned immediately.
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