Debbie Dunn tests positive

Yes, an old Ted Williams hit .388 in 1957 - right around the time that the first steroids were being tested by Dr. Ziegler. But I'm sure he was clean.

Sacred cow?

2000 Olympic Trials Game:

Pick out the dopers:

Women's 100 Meter Dash

W World: 10.49 Florence Griffith-Joyner, USA 1988

A American: 10.49 Florence Griffith-Joyner 1988

T Trials: 10.49 Florence Griffith-Joyner 1988

Preliminaries - Results - Friday 07/14/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Heat 1 Wind Reading: -0.2

1 Marion Jones Nike 10.92

2 Passion Richardson Nike 11.29

3 Angela Manuel Unattached 11.31

4 LaTasha Jenkins Nike 11.46

5 Michelle Burrell Santa Monica TC 11.52

6 Kelli White adidas 11.54

7 Donica Merriman Ohio State 11.66

Heat 2 Wind Reading: -0.4

1 Chryste Gaines adidas 11.14

2 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 11.20

3 Tonya Carter Florida State 11.34

4 Brianna Glenn Arizona 11.42

5 Lakeisha Backus Unattached 11.47

6 Miesha McKelvy Sheffield Elite 11.53

7 Michelle Brown Shore Athletic Club 11.55

8 Kisha Jett Unattached 11.57

Heat 3 Wind Reading: 1.3

1 Gail Devers Nike 10.99

2 Carlette Guidry adidas 11.03

3 Torri Edwards Nike 11.06

4 Shakedia Jones UCLA 11.25

5 Muna Lee Unattached 11.36

6 Cheryl Taplin Nike 11.42

7 Juan Ball Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.42

8 Erica Burrell Unattached 11.78

Heat 4 Wind Reading: 1.7

1 Inger Miller Nike 11.04

2 Angela Williams Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.34

3 Angela Daigle Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.46

4 Erica Whipple Palm Beach Lakes HS 11.59

5 Aleah Williams Texas-Austin 11.62

6 Teneeshia Jones Mississippi 11.63

7 Melisa Barber South Carolina 11.65

Semi-Finals - Results - Saturday 07/15/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Heat 1 Wind Reading: -0.4

1 Marion Jones Nike 10.93

2 Torri Edwards Nike 11.14

3 Chryste Gaines adidas 11.15

4 Carlette Guidry adidas 11.20

5 Shakedia Jones UCLA 11.32

6 Angela Williams Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.33

7 Brianna Glenn Arizona 11.56

8 Angela Daigle Southern Cal. Cheetahs 11.64

Heat 2 Wind Reading: -1.0

1 Inger Miller Nike 11.10

2 Gail Devers Nike 11.25

3 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 11.25

4 Passion Richardson Nike 11.46

5 Cheryl Taplin Nike 11.54

6 Tonya Carter Florida State 11.57

7 Angela Manuel Unattached 11.62

8 Muna Lee Unattached 11.67

Final - Results - Saturday 07/15/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Wind Reading: -1.0

1 Marion Jones Nike 10.88

2 Inger Miller Nike 11.05

3 Chryste Gaines adidas 11.13

4 Torri Edwards Nike 11.15

5 Gail Devers Nike 11.15

6 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 11.18

7 Carlette Guidry adidas 11.22

8 Passion Richardson Nike 11.32

Women's 200 Meter Dash

W World: 21.34 Florence Griffith-Joyner, USA 1988

A American: 21.34 Florence Griffith-Joyner 1988

T Trials: 21.77 Florence Griffith-Joyner 1988

Preliminaries - Results - Saturday 07/22/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Heat 1 Wind Reading: -1.2

1 Marion Jones Nike 22.62

2 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 22.84

3 Carlette Guidry adidas 23.12

4 Mikele Barber South Carolina 23.61

5 Aleah Williams Texas-Austin 24.15

Heat 2 Wind Reading: -0.9

1 Michelle Collins Nike 22.85

2 Torri Edwards Nike 23.04

3 Shekera Weston Clemson 23.38

4 Michele Davis Nevada-Las Vegas 23.47

5 Celena Mondie-Milner Unattached 23.55

6 Demetria Washington South Carolina 23.65

Heat 3 Wind Reading: -1.1

1 Latasha Colander-Richrd Nike 23.29

2 Wyllesheia Myrick Miami 23.35

3 Chryste Gaines adidas 23.52

4 Flirtisha Harris Unattached 23.65

5 Melisa Barber South Carolina 24.07

Heat 4 Wind Reading: -0.7

1 Kinshasa Davis USC 23.12

2 LaTasha Jenkins Nike 23.14

3 Kisha Jett Unattached 23.36

4 Andrea Anderson Unattached 23.60

5 Tania Woods Unattached 24.13

Heat 5 Wind Reading: -0.6

1 Inger Miller Nike 23.13

2 Shakedia Jones UCLA 23.25

3 Kelli White adidas 23.40

4 Juan Ball Southern Cal. Cheetahs 23.71

5 Michelle Burrell Santa Monica TC 24.12

Semi-Finals - Results - Sunday 07/23/00

PL ATHLETE NAME TEAM TIME

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Heat 1 Wind Reading: 2.3

1 Marion Jones Nike 22.08

2 Inger Miller Nike 22.40

3 LaTasha Jenkins Nike 22.54

4 Latasha Colander-Richrd Nike 22.56

5 Shakedia Jones UCLA 22.57

6 Kisha Jett Unattached 23.15

7 Shekera Weston Clemson 23.67

Heat 2 Wind Reading: 1.7

1 Nanceen Perry Mizuno/ In Pursuit 22.52

2 Michelle Collins Nike 22.57

3 Torri Edwards Nike 22.65

4 Carlette Guidry adidas 23.03

5 Kinshasa Davis USC 23.11

6 Wyllesheia Myrick Miami 23.14

7 Kelli White adidas 23.36

8 Michele Davis Nevada-Las Vegas 23.52

observantowl wrote:

Watch for Alysia Montano to make the 4x400.

I don't think anyone would mind that if she was so inclined.

But Debbie Dunn was the alternate, and the other spot on the 4X4 in the finals will go to Felix. So nothing changes for the finals. Dunn probably would have run in Felix' spot in qualifying.

They can choose anyone in the Olympics and put them on the relay. It's not nearly as hard to be running in the 4X4 than the 4X1 but I think Alysia would need to volunteer and go to the relay camp.

douglas burke wrote:

someone on the trackandfieldnews.com message board said he mailed her workouts from prison. i did not think of that.

Adam Smith wrote:

This literally made me laugh out loud. Glad my coworker has his headphones on. The idea that an Olympic quality athlete would get her workouts/training plan from a coach in prison... I hope this is true. And I hope this gets made into a tv show. Arrested Development Season 4, anyone?

NO TOUCHING! haha

Have the women historically used the 400IH runners as the men have?

It would actually be a pretty tight 400 race between Montano and Demus. Demus has run 51-low and Montano has run 52-low. Alysia Montano is THAT fast.

But, now, get this. I was at a meet at UCLA in 2009 when Carmelita Jeter RAN DOWN Demus in the home straight in a 400. It was I think 53.3 in March, so not quite fast enough to make the IAAF list for the event and thus not in Jeter's IAAF bio. And Demus went on to run I think the 4th fastest 400IH ever run that year.

The Women can use Demus, but they have other even faster options.

old coach man wrote:

Gay and Spearmon got their workouts from LB when he was in prison.

Lloyd Braun? He's a psycho.

old coach man wrote:

Gay and Spearmon got their workouts from LB when he was in prison.

Leonard Bernstein?

old coach man wrote:

Gay and Spearmon got their workouts from LB when he was in prison.

Why don't you just spell out the coach's name - not everyone knows your stupid ass abbreviations. You're not cool for using them, tool.

Lance Bauman, douche. Former Arkansas sprint coach. now coaching Jamaican athletes in Clermont, FL.

a loser wrote:

old coach man wrote:

Gay and Spearmon got their workouts from LB when he was in prison.

Why don't you just spell out the coach's name - not everyone knows your stupid ass abbreviations. You're not cool for using them, tool.

It's Lance Brauman, convicted embezzler.

Ted Williams was mexican? what?

.388 in the 1950's is nothing compared to a 49 400 for a woman.

She came out of nowhere in 2009. I'm not surprised at all.

A testosterone / epi ratio over 4:1 is considered elevated. In most men, the ratio is 1:1, and it is less than 1:1 in women.

is that just for women or both sexes ??

kinda strange it's hat high before it counts as "elevated"

aladdin wrote:

old coach man wrote:

Gay and Spearmon got their workouts from LB when he was in prison.

Lloyd Braun? He's a psycho.

No he's not. Serenity now!

I swear to God, just one time I'd like to see an athlete caught doping just go, "Yeah. You got me. Sorry." They always deny it.

Dwain Chambers

i kinda like running wrote:

I swear to God, just one time I'd like to see an athlete caught doping just go, "Yeah. You got me. Sorry." They always deny it.

Weasels are consistent in character.

There was Leshawn Merritt, who admitted to taking a bogus male enhancement product. Dumb and small, I guess.

Adam Smith wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

someone on the trackandfieldnews.com message board said he mailed her workouts from prison.

i did not think of that.

This literally made me laugh out loud. Glad my coworker has his headphones on. The idea that an Olympic quality athlete would get her workouts/training plan from a coach in prison... I hope this is true. And I hope this gets made into a tv show. Arrested Development Season 4, anyone?

There's always money IN the banana stand.