ttc wrote:
With his coaching, running success and the best blogs I've read- Everyone should appreciate his awesome contributions to the sport.
Please tell me about his biggest coaching success thus far?
ttc wrote:
With his coaching, running success and the best blogs I've read- Everyone should appreciate his awesome contributions to the sport.
Please tell me about his biggest coaching success thus far?
I think you are presenting a false choice. A person is free to be pious and express their beliefs. People are free to find that rude when introduced into other topics like business or sports. I think there is a fine line when discussing individual success because faith may be very important to that athlete and he or she may feel it contributes to their success.
The More You Know wrote:
Meh.
All runners are crazy. At least the good ones. Sometimes it is a surplus of sanity that keeps runners from reaching their potential.
Crazy people say crazy things. So when McDougal or Hall say weird things about their faith, it isn't their faith that is crazy, it is the crazy person saying it.
From where I stand, runners are my kind of crazy. It doesn't matter which brand of invisible sky-friend is telling them what to do.
Check out this quote from Mohammed Ahmed: All American Muslim:
"If I did not have Islam in my life, I truly believe I would not be the same person I am today. I would be following my desires way too much and I think my running would suffer as a consequence. … I would be womanizing and partying…and other things that college students and people of my age are doing. … All I focus on is my school and my running, which is balanced by my religion."
You average Beer-Belly McBro fraternity brother would think this man is certifiable. He turns to religion to "protect" him from getting laid and partying? That is nuts.
The take home here is not that any one brand of invisible sky-friend is crazy. It is that *elite runners* are crazy. They are OUR KIND OF CRAZY. Sure we'll make fun of things that stand out, but the fact that these people are runners is waaaaaaaaaaaay more important that the name of the invisible sky-friend that tells them not to go out on Friday and to get up for 20 milers early Saturday.
"He turns to religion to "protect" him from getting laid and partying? That is nuts."
how is not participating in using a human being for sexual pleasure nuts?
clearly your morals are skewed!
Coaching success? wrote:
ttc wrote:With his coaching, running success and the best blogs I've read- Everyone should appreciate his awesome contributions to the sport.
Please tell me about his biggest coaching success thus far?
He said running success, not coaching success. It's a list that reads like this:
1. coaching
2. running success
3. best blogs I've read
"how is not participating in using a human being for sexual pleasure nuts?
clearly your morals are skewed!"
If you are using other humans beings for only for your sexual pleasure, I humbly suggest that you are doing it wrong. Two people mutually consenting to enjoying sexual pleasure together is a fine thing. Individuals sing other people for your own purposes is being an a**hole. If YOU can't tell the difference between those two scenarios, then it is perfectly clear that it is your morals that are insufficient to the task.
The ascetic lifestyle is capable of producing wonderful things. But what makes it special is that it involves the SACRIFICE of good things. If the things being given up aren't good, then there isn't a sacrifice and the asceticism isn't special.
I respect people who voluntarily give up things in exchange for higher goods. On the other hand, people who can't tell the difference between healthy human love and exploitation deserve only pity.
exft wrote:
I don't think people are deeply offended by Christ, Buddha, Muhammed...
People are offended when those teachings come with a personal agenda attached to it.
Christ, you're either for Him or against Him, His own words. You either accept Him as God in the flesh, or burn in Hell forever when you die, most of teaching was based on this, which is why you see repeated attempts on His life by angry crowds, etc.
Muhammad was told by "Allah" to conquer the world, to give the entire world the choice of convert, die, or "submit" aka accept an oppressed status. Muhammad himself went about conquering Arabia, massacring Jewish tribes, etc.
No doubt. Society instructs us to celebrate each religion. It is a nice way to describe religious oppression.
How Quickly We Forget wrote:
McDougal was also made fun of for being a Christian, funny how nobody would dare ridicule an American college runner if he said he was a Muslim (that's another argument).
Oh really? wrote:
Christ, you're either for Him or against Him, His own words. You either accept Him as God in the flesh, or burn in Hell forever when you die, most of teaching was based on this, which is why you see repeated attempts on His life by angry crowds, etc.
Muhammad was told by "Allah" to conquer the world, to give the entire world the choice of convert, die, or "submit" aka accept an oppressed status. Muhammad himself went about conquering Arabia, massacring Jewish tribes, etc.
Troll rating: 1/10
There may be a lot of stupid people out there, but very few are stupid enough to buy into picking and choosing lines from two different brands of invisible sky-friends.
Let's play pick and choose scriptures. The Koran teaches that the Prophet said:
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trust worthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things."
The Christian Gospels teach:
“Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us.
Both scriptures have teachings of peace and teaching of violence. It's like that one guy said once: you can tell a tree by the fruit that it bears. If you say "Jesus Jesus" or "Allah Allah" but act like a jerk, you are a jerk. If you say "Jesus Jesus" or "Allah Allah" and love your neighbor and forgive them, then you are a righteous dude. The brand of invisible sky-friend you choose to talk to is much less important than whether you act out of love or hate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAxr-zJA19kKoppenberg wrote:
The Christian Gospels teach:
If one reads and watches it will be worth it. We are all infants. We will all die infantile, lying in our human excrement of lies, hate, violence, lasciviousness, etc.
Honest consideration should bring you to your knees. If it does not, you're lying to yourself.
Don't respond to me...I won't be back to check this.