Oregon in the 80s wrote:
Actually TK, distance running, or the *appearance* of success in this sport, particularly in the Internet age, doesn't require honesty, and really only requires a small dose of discipline for a short time each day.
I don't have time to address all your WTFs?? in detail, but in response to your questions about whether I knew these guys were degenerates back then, and how I know they're degenerates now...
No, back when we were in college, I didn't know how bad they were. In hindsight, yes, there were signs of problems, particularly signs of the early stages of alcoholism for several of them, but no, I had no idea how awful they would become later in life. They did not advertise their backalley, underworld dealings to me when we were acquainted in college.
How do I know what they've become? Actually, I did not keep track of them for many years, and had/have very deliberately cut one of them out of my life completely, when a few years back one in the group contacted me, and in the course of reminiscing, talked a lot of smack about his former teammates, I presume in an effort to elevate my opinion of himself.
Unfortunately, time told, through the reports of more reliable friends and acquaintances, public records, and police investigation (long story), it came to my awareness that this guy was as big a fraud and disaster as the rest of the bunch.
And for the record, the successful 400 meterish guys I referred to do not work in finance, it was the degenerate distance guys that do/did, but I agree with your statement about finance being a hollow/shallow pursuit.