The guy that started the thread below doesn't think that Kenny could ever run that fast again because a time like that would put him at the top.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3496235&page=0
The guy that started the thread below doesn't think that Kenny could ever run that fast again because a time like that would put him at the top.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3496235&page=0
Yeah but... 2011 Worlds is over. The next race that matters is 2012 London.
toro wrote:
The guy that started the thread below doesn't think that Kenny could ever run that fast again because a time like that would put him at the top.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3496235&page=0
You obviously struggle with reading comprehension. Read the initial post in the thread. Please don't post such inanity again until you've learned how to read with comprehension. My post was prescient at the time and this post does not contradict anything I wrote there.
Rec Runner x wrote:
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Wow I had to reread the article to make sure those words actually came out of his mouth. He could not handle the pace of a strategic 10k at worlds but seeks to run just some two weeks later one of the fastest times in history. I think its fair to go ahead a label KB a head case.
Ultimate fail. A guy with over 20 championship gold medals and the current WR, OR, and CR for 5000 and 10000 is the last person who could be labeled "head case" or "delusional."
I wouldn't be surprised if dropping out in Daegu was just a ploy.
oh please wrote:
Rec Runner x wrote:...
Wow I had to reread the article to make sure those words actually came out of his mouth. He could not handle the pace of a strategic 10k at worlds but seeks to run just some two weeks later one of the fastest times in history. I think its fair to go ahead a label KB a head case.
Ultimate fail. A guy with over 20 championship gold medals and the current WR, OR, and CR for 5000 and 10000 is the last person who could be labeled "head case" or "delusional."
I know this doesn't matter, but Bekele doesn't have the CR for the 5,000.
chet wrote:
Read the initial post in the thread.
This is from the initial post of the initial thread:
"But it seems increasingly clear that Kenny's days at the top, where he sat perched on his throne appearing so imperious as the grand emperor of footracers, that those days are over"
Then you posted Bekele's quote:
“I'm looking for a time around 26:35 or 26:40,” said Bekele
Obviously Kenny can't run 26:35 unless he is at the top, being that the world lead is 26:46.
So I inferred that you disagreed that he could run 26:35 since those days are over.
I am not claiming a contradiction in your words. Just making it clear that you doubt that he could run that fast.
I have my doubts as well.
Now if you actually think he can run that fast, a time that no man other than Bekele has run in the last 5 years, then that would contradict your first thread.
Will he win Brussels? I don't know.
He isn't facing any other Ethiopians. Kipchoge could put up a fight. Without seeing any results, I can't tell what his fitness is.
So we watch and see.
oh please wrote:
Rec Runner x wrote:...
Wow I had to reread the article to make sure those words actually came out of his mouth. He could not handle the pace of a strategic 10k at worlds but seeks to run just some two weeks later one of the fastest times in history. I think its fair to go ahead a label KB a head case.
Ultimate fail. A guy with over 20 championship gold medals and the current WR, OR, and CR for 5000 and 10000 is the last person who could be labeled "head case" or "delusional."
Yeah yeah all that's in the past. His latest performance show he's nowhere near where he used to be.
Fair enough Toro, but I guess I would add that Josphat Menjo had the world's fastest time last year at 10,000 meters and I don't think many would say he was alone at the top of the world when it comes to 10,000 meter racing.
Remember, even if Kenenisa wins in Brussels in 26:35-26:40, this to me is not proof that he is back on top in any real sense of the word, meaning it doesn't prove he could defeat the world's best in a championship race, for example.
One other thing to keep in mind is that Kenenisa ran 26:25 in Eugene in 2008, running the second half basically by himself. If, by way of illustration, he runs and wins Brussels in 26:37, but he has company until the last 4 laps, possibly sharing the lead, this would be a far inferior effort to that Eugene race and some of his other efforts which were largely solo. Kenenisa has been a great champion, but I do think his days of dominance are over, even if he remains one of the best in the world. We shall see...
For the record, I would be surprised if Kenenisa is able to run much faster than 26:45 in Brussels. I said Kenenisa will win the race, but I would expect he'll run 26:45-26:50. I have no doubt he wants the WL performance, and he may get it...Remember, he is arguably the greatest distance runner in the history of athletics.
Rec Runner x wrote:
chet wrote:http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/dlm/news/newsid=62532.html“I'm looking for a time around 26:35 or 26:40,” said Bekele, who will compete in the 10,000m on the same track where he set the current World record of 26:17.53 six years ago.
“I've now been training very well since Daegu and I don't regret going there, I don't count it a as a defeat because I didn't finish the race; I still feel I have a 100% record at 10,000m. I know that I went there without a lot of good training behind me but I went because sometimes surprises can happen.”
Wow I had to reread the article to make sure those words actually came out of his mouth. He could not handle the pace of a strategic 10k at worlds but seeks to run just some two weeks later one of the fastest times in history. I think its fair to go ahead a label KB a head case.
Bekele has the WR, the OR, the MR (your mom's record), and about any other record you can think of. To call him a headcase is insane. If anyone can bounce back quickly to top status, I believe he is the only man who could. I will never count him out. He had done the impossible before. This is a man who averaged what 13:13s back to back? He may not do it but I certainly won't ever put it past him.
007run wrote:
This is a man who averaged what 13:13s back to back? He may not do it but I certainly won't ever put it past him.
13:08.765 if you divide his wr in two...
Even better than what I thought. You get my point. If you have ever dropped back to back 13:08s, I'm not gonna say you can't do anything.
seriously, most of you on here are effin morons; do you realize who you are talking about right now?? a guy who has the world record in both the 5k and 10k, a guy undefeated at 10000m, and has won how many gold medals in both the 5 and 10? and some idiot on here says he is a head case?? hahah lol at your stupid thoughts. he cant be too much of a headcase if hes been at that top level for soo long with soo much success. you dont just go undefeated in those races and handle pressure that well while being a headcase. but then again you are all probably a bunch of mediocre college runners who somehow know more than the best distance runner in the world....right...?
What is the time of the race, U.S. time?
People change bro. What happens to a guy who is used to dominance when he isn't fit enough to race for two years, and when he finally thinks he might have it back, he ends up dropping out of a race that he would have dominated a few years ago? I'm not saying he has completely gone off it, but that kind of stuff ain't easy on the psyche.
I think he's trying to prove to himself that he's still got something, and maybe trying to not end yet another season with complete disappointment. Or maybe he just needs some beer money.
'Remember, even if Kenenisa wins in Brussels in 26:35-26:40'
Don't know how someone is going not being able to finish a 27+ race to that sort of time in 2 weeks
What do people think of his undefeated comments? To me dropping out is worse than getting beat.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
'Remember, even if Kenenisa wins in Brussels in 26:35-26:40'
Don't know how someone is going not being able to finish a 27+ race to that sort of time in 2 weeks
What do people think of his undefeated comments? To me dropping out is worse than getting beat.
Have to agree all around. Dropping out is clearly losing - only worse. And as far as going from unable to keep up in a not so fast race to dropping a 26:35 just a few weeks later - well, good luck with that.
CAN I GET A HELL YA?!!
THE KING IS BACK! Maintains his 100% record. Take that haters!
mad props to galen as well.
More likely, he dropped out because he knew he was not going to be able to win.
Coming from cool altitude, maybe he decided that Deagu wasn't Bekele Certified.
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