Robby Andrews 3:40.77

Hey Bud wrote:That was a sick kick but he still lost the race. Nobody remembers the guy who finished 2nd. Nice double by O'Lionaird.

Oh really? This thread seems to indicate otherwise. It's more like nobody remembers who finished first lol.

MRR, so right indeed, in 6-9 months NOT one person will remember who won other than O'Lionard, his family and drinking buddies.

And Andrews will be on his way to a World's Team and future Olympic teams and 3:30's low and 1:44

You all annoy the crap out of me. Give first place his credit. (And I go to a competing school!)

Who is Robbie Andrews? Someone please explain to me why he is worth remembering, other than, fluking a win over Wheating indoors. I'll I remember, is another 1:45 800m guy. Please let me know once he actually does something. Thank you

The guy races like a terd!

not too bad wrote:

What is the obsession with Andrews here?

Umm, white 800 meter runner.

Just saw the video, that was impressive, but major props to the athlete who did what he had to do to win. (Lets not forget that!)

Andrew is obviously in great shape; it is not like he was chasing down a 3:45 guy. I would not be suprised to see Andrews go 1:46 the next time he runs an 800m. Also, if he runs a 1500m against a stacked field where he is forced to go out harder, I can nly speculate what he could run...I am pretty sure it will be a couple clicks under 3:40. Except the for the BYU athlete, no one else in the NCAA is running really fast miles, I would say he is in the top 3 even though I am sure he won't double in the championship; however, I can see Andrews switched to the anchor leg on UVA's DMR at Penn.

someone actually wrote this?

Who is Robbie Andrews? Someone please explain to me why he is worth remembering, other than, fluking a win over Wheating indoors. I'll I remember, is another 1:45 800m guy. Please let me know once he actually does something. Thank you

The guy races like a terd!

Andrews is 2-1 against Wheating still when he was a frosh and Wheating a senior, give Andrews 2.5 more years, I think it will look pretty even.

trialswatcher wrote:

Andrews is 2-1 against Wheating still when he was a frosh and Wheating a senior, give Andrews 2.5 more years, I think it will look pretty even.

andrews is a good runner but don't tie his success to how he does against wheating...wheating is a 3:30 1:44 pro he is not even thinking about some kid who got a couple tactical wins over him in college...they are not in the same leage

andrews is probably the most talented mid d guy in the ncaa right now...nothing more nothing less

and he races like an idiot

*sigh*

Your racing record against certain people doesn't mean shit if you constantly lose in championship meets.

Anyone that claims poor tactics by someone who just PR'd obviously doesn't understand running.

yeah... wrote:

andrews is a good runner but don't tie his success to how he does against wheating...wheating is a 3:30 1:44 pro he is not even thinking about some kid who got a couple tactical wins over him in college...they are not in the same leage

You're right. This is the league Wheating is NOT in:

Jenny Barringer

Andrew Bumbalough

Bernard Lagat

Lopez Lomong

Leo Manzano

Shannon Rowbury

Galen Rupp

Shalane Flanagan

Anna Pierce

Chris Solinsky

Duane Solomon

Nick Symmonds

Matt Tegencamp

Mo Trafeh

Maggie Vessey

Christin Wurth-Thomas

http://www.usatf.org/groups/HighPerformance/AntiDoping/negatives/2011/2011q1.asp

That is the list of athletes that tested negative for drugs as reported by USATF. Notice who is not on it and is not on the full list reported to the IAAF.

You're right. Wheating is in a different league, and that's why I don't accept his results as legitimate. It goes along with the "amazing" improvements last summer after losing to a freshman, and the very extended period of no racing. Now, apparently no out of competition testing (unless they're actually sitting on a positive) for at least a quarter.

If Wheating was from Jamaica, Morocco, or Spain with those stats, almost every person on this board would call him a doper.

They didn't test Wheating because they know he's such a genetic freak that if he took any drugs he'd actually get slower.

LOL... DatBoi... Hollar...

You can go back and look at the results from each quarter of 2010 by just changing the URL to 2010 and 2010q1,2,3,or4. Wheating had no testing by USATF in 2010 either. Is this for real?

"Idiotic" isn't quite right.

Look-- when you spend your youth racing 800's, the 1500 looks like a long distance. The one thing an 800 guy knows for sure is that he can kick for a good 200+ meters without oxygen. He doesn't know whether he can maintain a steady 60 pace for the whole 1500.

Contrast that with the 5k/10k guy who knows how to pace himself and knows that-- if anyone with a kick is near him with 200 to go-- he's toast.

O'Lionaird did what he thought best to win the race. So did Andrews.

By the way-- it was hard to see from the video-- but who was the rabbit-like leader for the first 800? Was it someone from FSU?

To be honest, aside from knowing a kid who trains with Andrews, I know nothing about him. I'll admit that right off the bat. But it never ceases to amaze me how just about any topic on these boards invariably leads to an argument. I'm not attacking anyone, I just honestly find it interesting. As for his time? Come on, the guy ran 3:40 after not that much racing. Can't we just say, "Hey Andrews ran a 3:40 1500...very solid time, let's see where he goes from here"? That's not to say I don't find the debates on here interesting. I love discussing running on these boards, and people with opposing views are what make it interesting. The people on here, are some of the most well informed running enthusiasts you're going to come across. But this is a pretty black and white topic, is it not? He ran 3:40 after only a few races, and that's kinda that. I personally find this race impressive. If there's something I'm missing, and someone wants to call me out on it, then I'd love to discuss that, but for now, for this one topic, can we all just....get along? (Yes I realize we cannot all just get along but it's worth a shot)

4runner wrote:

"Idiotic" isn't quite right.

Look-- when you spend your youth racing 800's, the 1500 looks like a long distance. The one thing an 800 guy knows for sure is that he can kick for a good 200+ meters without oxygen. He doesn't know whether he can maintain a steady 60 pace for the whole 1500.

Contrast that with the 5k/10k guy who knows how to pace himself and knows that-- if anyone with a kick is near him with 200 to go-- he's toast.

O'Lionaird did what he thought best to win the race. So did Andrews.

By the way-- it was hard to see from the video-- but who was the rabbit-like leader for the first 800? Was it someone from FSU?

Andrews ran 4:03 in high school, he knows how to race the mile

Mrr82 wrote:

Hey Bud wrote:That was a sick kick but he still lost the race. Nobody remembers the guy who finished 2nd. Nice double by O'Lionaird.

Oh really? This thread seems to indicate otherwise. It's more like nobody remembers who finished first lol.

....and therein lies the problem with some of the posters on this board. They celebrate the entertainment factor of a particular move during a race rather than the final outcome.....and I agree that the Andrews' kick in the 1500 probably deserves a thread on this site....as an example of the kind of shape he's in and what not to do if you want to win a race.

meh wrote:

Andrews ran 4:03 in high school, he knows how to race the mile

Thanks-- I consider myself corrected.

I would never of imagined that he moved down going into college...

Let's just note that anyone who runs a fast race for their level of competition AND finishes like a house on fire is likely to drop his time dramatically in a more even paced race later in the season. And above and beyond that, Andrews is coming off a protracted injury absence, a redshirt season indoors, and he has been known as an 800m runner primarily at the college level. Just as Wheating announced that he was going to be a runner to be reckoned with when he ran something like a 3:38 closing in a reported 25, so did Andrews show that he is capable now or soon will be of running much, much faster at the 1500. It was for these reasons that no one was shocked that Wheating dropped a ton of time when he ran in Monaco. 3:30 was surprising the first time out but we all knew that he was long overdue for a fast time in a race where he had fast people to chase, given his sit and kick style.