Sisson barred...who does the MHSAA think they are? The AAU?

GetANewSource wrote:

In Diane Robison, Emily had an unbelievable training partner and they combined to make one of the best One/Two punches in the women's highschool ranks the past couple seasons.

She certainly did work under the guidance of Parkway

Central's coach, as he coached her through 2 Record Setting Cross Country seasons, 1 record setting outdoor season and some very fast post season races in cross country and on the track.

Hey buddy, I know for a fact that her dad wrote most of her workouts and that she rarely did the same workouts as Diane. Yes, they are both great runners and certainly brought a great one-two punch, but they did not train together. Did you ever see them together at meets? They didn't even warmup together. Oftentimes they didn't even run at the same meets because of the tension. Get a clue. You are the one needing a new source.

Emily is running 5,000 at KU Relays tonight.

the legitimacy of times is a bs reason to dq someone for a whole season. If you're worried about fake marks from unsanctioned meets, don't accept them! You don't have to bar an athlete from competing because they ran in an unsanctioned race. Just treat that race like it didn't exist. Problem solved.

I didn't make my athletes eligible for outdoor season until after NIN. Problem solved, here at least.

Emily could have run the hs season if she wanted to; she simply chose not to. I think that she is at a different level than anyone else that has ever come through MO in distance running (Perkins was close) But Teg and others were not at this advanced level yet. I agree with Emily's decision, but Adam probably made a mistake; could of gone after the state mile record and still run plenty of meets that he would have been challenged in (especially in the 800 and 3200); and been better prepared for college running

Her choice was NIN or Missouri outdoor. It is stupid that she would even have to make such a decision. MSHAA is out to lunch on this one.

Who made you an expert on what is best for her life?

GetANewSource wrote:

[quote]doubtthat wrote:

[quote]Old Runner wrote:

She certainly did work under the guidance of Parkway

Central's coach, as he coached her through 2 Record Setting Cross Country seasons, 1 record setting outdoor season and some very fast post season races in cross country and on the track.

I'm sure in your mind that's the way it happened coach.

doubtthat has it right.

The only thing that will matter is when we see a huge match up in the 2-mile (and possibly 1-mile) at NON between Chelsey Sveinsson, Goethals, and Sisson.

Possibly 3 girls sub 10:00 would be amazing.

Are you kidding me. No wonder the USA is struggling to keep up with the rest of the World in Distance running. You have all these fat donut eating turds making these absurd rules that do not help promote distance running, instead of just letting the athletes compete.

could have wrote:

Her choice was NIN or Missouri outdoor. It is stupid that she would even have to make such a decision. MSHAA is out to lunch on this one.

Emily just ran 16:20 (totally by herself) at KU relays to win the womens 5k; why would she want to go through a hs season of meets, etc. when she does not need hs track. The NIN was not necessary if she wanted to really run for her hs this season. What did it accomplish??? The hs state associations have to have rules and make everyone follow them. Others have done world xc and still competed in MO hs track season. Trust me; more is being made out of this than is necessary. Emily did not want to run for her hs this season!!!

The state of Missouri is basically a bunch of yahoos who are one step removed from their hillbilly bretheren in Arkansas and Kentucky.

i think teg was at the same level or even further ahead than perkins. he had the state record in xc on a pretty hot november day, right around 80 if i remember right. he would go on to set the state record in the 3200. in between he was 5th at footlocker in a boy's race that was probably more competitive than the girl's race this year. he got beat by:

ritz (ncaa champ, olympian, american record)

sage (ncaa champ)

dobson (ncaa champ, olympian)

rohatinsky (ncaa champ)

he also beat webb in that race. so every single guy who beat him was an ncaa champ at worst in the future, unbelievable. the only year since then that can come close to touching that top 5 is 2003. maybe 2007 will be as good but its too early.

in perkins case i don't think anyone could have touched him in the 3200. he beat harper head to head in xc every time except footlocker regionals. no one in kansas city was going to touch him, the next best guy was probably on his own team, aaron martens. the 800 might have been a different story with brian roe but again, no one in kansas city was even close. he still went after some races, ku and a post season meet or two if i remember right. he ended up having a solid college career (338 1500m).

sisson seems a bit ahead of where both of those guys were on the national scene in high school.

Diane Robison is a native Parkway Central XC & track member who has raced almost every, if not every, HS meet she could. Emily is a transplant and in her two seasons of XC she raced in few HS meets before the championship seasons. Possibly the same for her one season of track. She could have been injured some. It's easy to assume she wasn't tight with the team, but who knows? Diane is one girl who emerged from that HS program. A few of the other distance individuals from the HS that have done well recently have had resources outside the HS coaching staff. The HS coach referred to earlier that is active and vocal is a good guy, but it's my understanding he's not the distance coach and he's definitely not the XC coach.

- And for the MSHSAA - "has good intentions" would be about the most positive comment that could be made.

The April/May issue of Athletic Management just plopped on my desk. And this article is in it:

http://www.athleticmanagement.com/2010/04/04/going_national/index.php

As much as I like high school running, I think this is the right move. Lapping 14 minute two milers vs. lining up with her future competition on a collegiate or national level...which do you think will make her better?

So much for loyalty to her school. She ran for two different high schools in Omaha during her frosh and soph seasons (beating everyone in sight).

2010 KANSAS RELAYS

Memorial Stadium - University of Kansas - 4/14/2010 to 4/17/20

Event 9 Women 5000 Meter Run College

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Name Year School Finals

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Finals

1 Emily Sisson SR Unattached 16:20.44

2 Lauren Bonds SR Kansas 16:56.49

3 Angela Adams SO NW Missouri 17:05.81

4 Courtney Waltbillig SR Missouri Southern 17:21.94

5 Allie Marquis FR Kansas 17:23.25

6 Ashley Bunch SR Missouri Southern 17:32.49

7 Paige Ties SR Iowa State 17:45.28

8 Eden Slater FR Missouri 18:08.30

9 Kaitlin Frier JR UC-Colo. Spgs. 18:16.98

10 Cecilia Burley SO Cowley County CC 18:20.66

11 Allison Knoll SR Kansas 18:21.67

12 Alexandria Harkins JR Park U. 18:21.90

13 Jennifer Dittburner SR NW Missouri 18:26.04

14 Jessica Armstrong JR Missouri 18:32.63

15 Erica Freiert FR UMKC 18:36.14

16 Christina Owensby FR Southwest Baptist 18:37.15

17 Brenna Farren FR Kansas 18:43.21

18 Elizabeth Marsh SR Nebraska 18:44.96

19 Sara Meiners FR UMKC 18:51.64

20 Purity Cheruiyot SO Cowley County CC 18:54.27

21 Melanie McVay SO Southwest Baptist 18:55.58

22 Nicole Lair SR Oklahoma Christian 19:01.46

23 Christy Severy SR UC-Colo. Spgs. 19:02.67

24 Mackenzie Abernathy SO Kansas 19:03.09

25 Amanda Vorthmann SO Iowa Central CC 19:13.68

26 Mary Jantz SO NW Missouri 19:27.88

27 Jane Bowness SR NW Missouri 19:35.03

-- Robin Ray SO Cowley County CC DNF

-- Yasmina Elkasmi SO Lindenwood DNF

tbirdxc wrote:

As much as I like high school running, I think this is the right move. Lapping 14 minute two milers vs. lining up with her future competition on a collegiate or national level...which do you think will make her better?

Does winning races like KU by 35 seconds make her any better than winning a high school race by 35 seconds? Why doesn't she go somewhere that's competitive? Or does she just want to smoke people and look good.