to break 4, you need to...

In Sub-4:00, didn't Sullivan say that when he ran a 2:53 1200m, he hit 4:01 for his next mile race (at U-M)?

In addition, when Webb ran a 2:52.6, he ran a 3:44 1500m (also at U-M).

Therefore, probably a 2:52 at worst, as both Sullivan and Webb are endurance milers.

eric garner, UWer who ran sub 4, ran 2:59 the week before his breakthrough 3:58.9.

ratio wrote:

eric garner, UWer who ran sub 4, ran 2:59 the week before his breakthrough 3:58.9.

I would have to think that he held back or ran a supremely tactical 1200m, as running an all-out 1200m at the same pace as an all-out mile doesn't make sense.

ttc, I really tend to think Webb and Sully who were oin the way back from injuries..both? I believe may have just missed 4 off of those marks..

Those marks convert to about 1.2 or so up, so what?? 2:53.4 for Webb..you wpould have though , backed off to 2:58-9 he should have run under 4 in a race

He should have kept going the day of the TT may have broken 4 solo..run evenly at about 2:57 thur 1200

northwest master- yes of course, these workouts were always essential for me. the season that i ran 3.35 these sessions were follows:

1200m relaxed- 2.52

8 x 400m- 56

4x800m- 1.58

20x200m-26

if you have the desire to run so fast for the mile it is possible- this is what lydiard says. i remmber komen to run 3000m in the average of 2 miles faster than this pace, so a man with daily talent and hard work will make this. good luck to you! you must advise us of your progress!

ttc wrote:

Therefore, probably a 2:52 at worst, as both Sullivan and Webb are endurance milers.

These workouts are all great ideas, and it's great to hear what people actually did. But let's not get carried away with "2:52 at worst" and so on. People have very different "workout-to-race" conversions. We all know plenty of workout heros who are race zeros, and the lucky ones who are the opposite.

One summer, I had a teammate rabbit me for a 1200m time trial. I was spiked up, rested, and ready to go as hard as possible, but only managed 3:02, including a hard kick, tying up down the straightaway. Two weeks later, I ran 3:42, with a 57s last lap.

Again, it is great to see what people have done in workouts, for comparison. But races are races, and workouts are workouts.

I agree with you, Ferris. Some people run fast in practice and seem ferocious, yet show up on race day as mediocre. The opposite is true too. I think that you have to believe in yourself as much as be fit, so if you are running around 3:00 in practic for the 1200 without psyching yourself up to do it, then you can go sub-4 in a pack and with high motivation. In essence, sub-4 milers know when they are ready, without having to look at their workouts for confirmation.

I agree, before I ran my PB of 3:41 I had a week before struggled to run 6*400 off 1 min in 59-60 secs. I think training with a good group would have made a huge difference, where as I did this workout on my own.

There is no magic or defining workout. Consistent, often painful, hard work under 60 sec/400 pace will get you there. Keep truckin'

15mph wrote:

About 12 Americans a year break 4 minutes for the mile. GO FOR IT, you only live once! You will be the hero of your town.

At least twice as many run the equivilant 3:42.

My 1500 PR of 3:42.1 times 1.08 is 3:59.87 but I was not a sub 4 minute miler.

My best mile was 4:04i as I ran that distance maybe once or twice a year.

At the time I didn't care as much about breaking 4 because getting to USATF in the 1500 is what mattered.

Now it seems to matter more since not only average people but the running junkies on this board care more about the mile.

So to break 4 you need to race the event a lot in high quality competitions.

You don't need to run 2:52 to be able to break 4. I ran plenty of 1200 legs on DMRs, and never ran faster than 2:54, but I ran sub-4.

Let's not forget that when it comes to Sullivan and Webb, they had run 3:50 and 3:53 long before they ran those Time Trials. As their 3:44 and 4:01 miles next race out, not too many athletes can bust a mile in their first race of the season. Especially if they are training through it.

try 20 x 200 at 29 over hurdles with full recovery

I was wearing a speedsuit, mind you

joey woody

I plan on breaking four this spring.

It takes a lot of speed work, that is why I am currently training with high school sprinters.

See you in Athens!

Scotty

ratio wrote:

Where can we view this list of American sub 4 minute milers?

Here

Lap jog (slow) 4min

1957

1. Don Bowden (Cal).............*3:58.7....(1)..Stockton..........Jun 1

1960

2. Dyrol Burleson (Or)..........3:58.6.....(1)..Eugene............Apr 23

3. Jim Beatty (SCVYV)...........3:58.0.....(1)..Modesto...........May 28

1962

4. Jim Grelle (LATC)............3:59.9.....(1)..Walnut............Apr 28

5. Keith Forman (Or)............*3:58.3....(1)..Modesto...........May 26

6. Cary Weisiger (USMC).........3:59.3.....(2)..Modesto...........May 26

7. Bill Dotson (Ks).............*3:59.0....(4)..Walnut............Jun 23

8. Bob Seaman (LATC)............*3:58.07...(4)..London............Aug 18

1963

9. Tom O'Hara (Loyola)..........3:59.2i....(2)..New York..........Feb 15

1964

10. Archie San Romani Jr. (Or)..*3:57.6....(3)..Compton...........Jun 5

11. Morgan Groth (OrSt).........*3:57.9....(4)..Compton...........Jun 5

12. Bob Day (UCLA)..............3:58.9.....(6)..Compton...........Jun 5

13. Jim Ryun (KsHS).............3:59.0.....(8)..Compton...........Jun 5

14. Bob Schul (M/O).............3:59.1.....(1)..San Diego.........Jun 13

1965

15. John Garrison (LATC)........*3:58.1....(2)..Modesto...........May 29

1966

16. Roscoe Divine (Or)..........3:59.1.....(2)..Eugene............Jun 2

17. Wade Bell (Or)..............*3:59.8....(3)..Eugene............Jun 2

18. Tim Danielson (CaHS)........*3:59.4....(4)..San Diego.........Jun 11

19. Richard Romo (unat).........*3:58.8....(1)..Woodland Hills....Aug 10

20. Ted Nelson (Strid)..........*3:59.4....(2)..Woodland Hills....Aug 10

1967

21. Dave Patrick (Vill).........3:59.3i....(1)..New York..........Feb 17

22. Dave Wilborn (Or)...........*3:56.2....(3)..Bakersfield.......Jun 23

23. Tom Von Ruden (49ers).......*3:56.9....(4)..Bakersfield.......Jun 23

24. Sam Bair (Kent).............3:58.7.....(5)..Bakersfield.......Jun 23

25. Marty Liquori (NJHS)........3:59.8.....(6)..Bakersfield.......Jun 23

1968

26. Brian Kivlan (Man)..........*3:57.4....(2)..Philadelphia......Jun 1

27. Jerry Richey (Pitt).........*3:58.6....(3)..Philadelphia......Jun 1

28. Jack Fath (Ford)............*3:59.5....(5)..Philadelphia......Jun 1

29. Pat Traynor (USAF)..........*3:59.0....(3)..Walnut............Aug 10

1969

30. Chuck LaBenz (AzSt).........3:58.4.....(1)..Berkeley..........May 31

31. John Lawson (PCC)...........3:59.5.....(4)..Berkeley..........May 31

1970

32. Rick Riley (WaSt)...........*3:59.2....(1)..Westwood..........May 16

33. Duncan Macdonald (Stan).....3:59.6.....(3)..Westwood..........May 16

34. Jim Crawford (unat).........3:59.6.....(1)..Modesto...........May 23

35. Howell Michael (WM).........3:59.0.....(2)..Philadelphia......May 30

36. John Mason (PCC)............3:58.4.....(2)..Berkeley..........May 30

37. Steve Prefontaine (Or)......3:57.4.....(2)..Eugene............Jun 5

38. Steve Savage (Or)...........*3:59.2....(5)..Eugene............Jun 5

39. Dave Wottle (BG)............3:59.0.....(1)..Bloomington.......Jun 6

1971

40. Len Hilton (Hous)...........3:59.1i....(2)..Houston...........Feb 13

41. Greg Carlberg (Nb)..........*3:59.6i...(3)..Houston...........Feb 13

42. Larry Rose (OkSt)...........3:59.5.....(1)..Lawrence..........Apr 16

43. Lee LaBadie (Il)............*3:58.8....(1)..Carbondale........May 11

44. Jerome Howe (KsSt)..........3:59.4.....(1)..Modesto...........May 29

45. Bob Wheeler (Duke)..........3:59.9.....(2)..Seattle...........Jun 19

46. John Baker (SptsIntl).......*3:59.8....(3)..Eugene............Jun 26

1972

47. Mark Winzenried (CW)........*3:59.5....(2)..Los Angeles.......Mar 4

48. George Young (unat).........*3:59.6....(3)..Los Angeles.......Mar 4

49. Juris Luzins (Quant)........*3:58.2....(2)..Modesto...........May 27

50. Ken Popejoy (MiSt)..........3:59.7.....(4)..Los Angeles.......Jun 9

1973

51. Tony Waldrop (NC)...........3:58.4.....(1)..Raleigh...........Apr 21

52. Reggie McAfee (NC)..........3:59.3.....(2)..Raleigh...........Apr 21

53. Barry Brown (FlTC)..........*3:58.8....(2)..Gainesville.......May 13

54. Mark Feig (Or)..............3:59.5.....(3)..Eugene............May 19

55. Tommy Fulton (TxSn).........*3:57.8....(1)..Arkadelphia.......May 25

56. Charlie McMullen (Mo).......3:59.7.....(1)..East Lansing......May 26

57. Rick Wohlhuter (UCTC).......3:58.8.....(1)..Wichita...........Jun 2

58. Dick Buerkle (NYAC).........3:58.0.....(1)..Gainesville.......Jun 4

59. Mark Schilling (SJSt).......*3:58.6....(6)..Baton Rouge.......Jun 9

60. Paul Geis (OTC).............*3:58.0....(4)..Eugene............Jun 20

61. Jim Johnson (CNW)...........*3:58.8....(6)..Eugene............Jun 20

62. Scott Daggatt (Or)..........3:59.6.....(7)..Eugene............Jun 20

1974

63. Mike Slack (unat)...........3:59.7i....(1)..Fargo.............Jan 26

64. Reed Fischer (Tx)...........*3:59.9i...(5)..Houston...........Feb 9

65. Greg Gibson (Wa)............*3:59.1i...(3)..San Diego.........Feb 16

66. Paul Cummings (BYU).........*3:56.4....(1)..Tempe.............Mar 16

67. Steve Wheeler (Duke)........*3:59.4....(1)..Raleigh...........Apr 20

68. Denis Fikes (Penn)..........*3:55.0....(2)..Philadelphia......Apr 27

69. Karl Thornton (Penn)........*3:57.9....(4)..Philadelphia......Apr 27

70. Bruce Fischer (UCTC)........*3:58.5....(3)..Wichita...........Jun 1

71. Ted Castaneda (Co)..........*3:58.5....(4)..Wichita...........Jun 1

72. Keith Palmer (KsSt).........*3:59.2....(5)..Wichita...........Jun 1

73. Jeff Schemmel (KsSt)........3:59.4.....(6)..Wichita...........Jun 1

1975

74. Keith Munson (ITA)..........*3:58.5i...(2)..Los Angeles.......Mar 22

75. Ken Swenson (ITA)...........*3:59.1....(2)..Durham............May 3

76. Steve Foster (FlTC).........3:58.5.....(1)..Gainesville.......May 6

77. Steve Heidenreich (In)......3:59.6.....(2)..Bowling Green.....May 10

78. Matt Centrowitz (NYAC)......3:59.2.....(4)..Modesto...........May 24

79. Gary Barger (Or)............*3:58.8....(1)..Eugene............May 29

80. Mike Durkin (Il)............*3:56.7....(2)..Wichita...........May 31

1976

81. Steve Bolt (Al).............*3:59.4i...(1)..Baton Rouge.......Feb 28

82. Rick Musgrave (Co)..........3:59.3.....(5)..Wichita...........May 29

1977

83. Steve Scott (UCI)...........3:59.7i....(3)..Los Angeles.......Jan 15

84. Ron Speirs (NYAC)...........*3:56.9....(4)..Philadelphia......April 30

85. Steve Lacy (Wi).............3:59.64....(2)..Wichita...........May 27

86. Ed Arriola (Az).............*3:59.3....(4)..Eugene............Jun 14

1978

87. Greg Meyer (AA).............*3:59.1i...(1)..Ann Arbor.........Jan 28

88. Tom Duits (WnMi)............*3:59.2....(3)..Philadelphia......Apr 29

89. Don Paige (Vill)............3:58.10....(2)..Westwood..........May 7

90. Craig Masback (Oxb).........3:59.6.....(1)..Oxford............Jun 17

91. Jerald Jones (SMTC).........*3:57.9....(7)..Oslo..............Jun 27

92. Jeff Jirele (SMTC)..........*3:58.26...(8)..Stockholm.........Jul 3

93. Phil Kane (AW)..............3:59.37....(9)..Stockholm.........Jul 3

94. Greg Fredericks (RAA).......*3:59.7....(2)..University Park...Aug 5

95. Mike Manke (AW).............*3:58.83...(4)..Berlin............Aug 18

1979

96. Mark Belger (AA)............3:58.4.....(2)..Berkeley..........Jun 9

97. Ross Donoghue (StJ).........3:58.0.....(4)..Piscataway........Jun 23

98. Tom Smith (Co)..............3:58.3.....(1)..Tillsonburg.......Jul 4

99. Andy Clifford (Cal).........3:59.49....(4)..Gateshead.........Jul 8

1980

100. Jim Spivey (In)............3:58.9i....(3)..Louisville........Feb 9

101. Ray Wicksell (S4)..........3:59.7.....(1)..Stanford..........Mar 22

102. Ron Cornell (UCLA).........*3:57.7....(4)..Westwood..........May 11

103. Larry Mangan (PennSt)......3:58.4.....(1)..University Park...May 16

104. Mike Wyatt (PPC)...........*3:58.0....(5)..Philadelphia......May 18

105. Todd Harbour (Bay).........3:58.38....(5)..Stockholm.........Jul 7

106. Bill McChesney (Or)........3:59.1.....(2)..Eugene............Jul 26

1981

107. Richie Harris (AW).........3:58.2.....(2)..Adelaide..........Feb 7

108. Tom Byers (AW).............3:56.0i....(3)..Inglewood.........Feb 13

109. Doug Padilla (AW)..........3:56.6i....(3)..Daly City.........Feb 21

110. Chuck Aragon (NDm).........3:59.92i...(1)..Champaign.........Feb 28

111. Dan Aldridge (S4)..........3:59.9.....(2)..San José..........Apr 11

112. Rudy Chapa (Or)............*3:57.04...(3)..Eugene............May 28

113. Ed Spinney (AW)............*3:57.34...(4)..Eugene............May 28

114. Ken Martin (AW)............ *3:57.84..(5)..Eugene............May 28

115. John Gregorek (Gtn)........3:57.10....(5)..Villanova.........May 30

116. +Sydney Maree (AA).........3:48.83....(1)..Rieti.............Sep 9

(+ Maree had previous sub-4:00s, but not representing U.S.)

1982

117. Frank Assumma (UCR)........3:57.3i....(2)..Los Angeles.......Jan 22

118. Dan Heikkinen (AW).........*3:59.05i..(1)..Ann Arbor.........Jan 23

119. Vince Draddy (Va)..........*3:58.2i...(4)..Boston............Feb 13

120. Roger Jones (Aub)..........*3:58.4i...(5)..Boston............Feb 13

121. Thom Hunt (AW).............3:59.5i....(6)..Boston............Feb 13

122. Mark Fricker (OrSt)........*3:58.3....(1)..Corvallis.........May 8

123. Jim Hill (Or)..............*3:56.41...(1)..Eugene............May 15

124. Joe Fabris (ARC)...........*3:58.3....(9)..Eugene............Jun 5

125. Steve Plasencia (AW).......*3:58.34...(5)..London............Jul 17

1983

126. Chris Fox (AW).............*3:59.0i...(2)..Johnson City......Jan 15

127. Kevin Johnson (ETn)........3:59.1i....(3)..Johnson City......Jan 15

128. Jay Woods (unat)...........3:58.2i....(2)..Daly City.........Feb 11

129. Brian Diemer (Mi)..........*3:59.93i..(1)..Ann Arbor.........Feb 12

130. Dub Myers (Or).............3:57.06....(1)..Eugene............May 14

131. Gary Gustafson (CNW).......*3:58.4....(4)..Vancouver.........Jun 1

132. Kevin Ryan (AW)............3:57.60....(5)..Eugene............Jun 4

133. Adam Dixon (Har)...........3:59.39....(7)..Luxembourg........Jul 20

1984

134. Randy Wilson (AW)..........*3:58.74...(3)..Eugene............May 12

135. Mike Blackmore (Or)........3:59.80....(4)..Eugene............May 12

136. Terry Brahm (In)...........3:59.35....(2)..Tillsonburg.......Jul 7

137. Brian Theriot (adi)........*3:56.10...(8)..Oslo..............Jul 21

1985

138. Jim McKeon (Rich)..........3:58.62I ..(6)..Johnson City......Jan 19

139. Cliff Sheehan (Harv).......*3:59.2....(4)..Philadelphia......Apr 27

140. Gary Lewis (Fres)..........*3:58.6....(7)..San José..........May 25

141. Richard Block (BSRT).......*3:59.84...(2)..Tillsonburg.......Jun 29

142. Henry Marsh (AW)...........*3:59.31...(3)..Bern..............Aug 16

1986

143. Mike Stahr (NYPC)..........3:58.79i...(1)..Allston...........Jan 26

144. Jeff Atkinson (Stan).......3:56.49....(2)..Modesto...........May 10

145. Earl Jones (SMTC)..........*3:58.76...(4)..Westwood..........May 17

146. Marty Hemsley (adi)........*3:59.70...(4)..Eugene............May 17

147. Kevin King (CC)............*3:58.31...(5)..Villanova.........Jun 14

148. Maurice Smith (Adams)......3:59.70....(7)..Belfast...........Jun 30

1987

149. James Murphy (InTC)........*3:59.99i..(2)..Indanapolis.......Jan 16

150. Joe Falcon (Ar)............3:56.77i...(1)..Fayetteville......Jan 31

151. Gawain Guy (H&R)...........3:58.56....(2)..Modesto...........May 9

152. Harold Kuphaldt (Or).......*3:59.73...(2)..Eugene............May 16

153. Rich Bergesen (Or).........*3:59.79...(3)..Eugene............May 16

1988

154. Brian Abshire (AW).........*3:58.62i..(2)..Johnson City......Jan 22

155. Steve Ave (NBal)...........3:59.09i...(3)..Allston...........Jan 31

156. Roosevelt Jackson (Reeb)...*3:59.41i..(3)..New York..........Feb 5

157. John Quade (Az)............3:57.3i....(1)..Notre Dame........Feb 6

158. Darryl Frerker (unat)......3:58.1i....(2)..Notr eDame........Feb 6

159. Karl Van Calcar (OrSt).....*3:59.35...(1)..Corvallis.........May 7

160. Tim Hacker (AW)............3:55.7.....(4)..Westwood..........Jun 5

161. Bruce Stirling (Reeb)......*3:59.1....(5)..Eugene............Jul 2

1989

162. Brian Jaeger (NikB)........*3:59.47i..(2)..Johnson City......Jan 27

163. Reuben Reina (Ar)..........3:58.88i...(2)..Ft. Worth.........Feb 18

164. Bob Whelan (Ky)............3:58.82i...(3)..Indianapolis......Mar 11

165. Mark Coogan (NikB).........*3:58.81...(1)..Dedham............Jun 10

166. Brad Schlapak (NEn)........3:59.91....(2)..Dedham............Jun 10

167. Greg Whiteley (Brown)......3:59.15....(5)..Westwood..........Jun 10

168. Paul Greer (SDTC)..........*3:59.79...(6)..Westwood..........Jun 10

1990

169. Eddie Slowikowski (Loy)....3:59.36i...(1)..Boston............Feb 18

170. Eric Henry (Ar)............3:59.18i...(2)..Indianapolis......Mar 10

171. Jim Norris (NBal)..........*3:59.5....(1)..Holmdel...........Jun 23

1991

172. Matt Taylor (Fox)..........*3:57.84i..(2)..Fayetteville......Jan 25

173. Bill Burke (Prin)..........3:58.70i...(1)..New York..........Feb 1

174. Mark Deady (NITC)..........*3:58.65i..(1)..Boston............Feb 16

175. Charles Marsala (NITC).....*3:58.73i..(2)..Boston............Feb 16

176. Mike Michno (NBal).........*3:58.94i..(3)..Boston............Feb 16

177. Bill Rathbun (BAA).........*3:59.94i..(4)..Boston............Feb 16

178. Bob Kennedy (In)...........3:58.11i...(1)..Indianapolis......Mar 9

179. John Trautmann (Gtn).......3:58.52i...(4)..Indianapolis......Mar 9

180. Matt Giusto (Miz)..........3:59.18....(3)..Stanford..........Mar 30

181. Gerry Donakowski (NikN)....*3:59.1....(4)..Dedham............Jun 9

182. Terrance Herrington (NikA).3:55.61....(8)..Vill.-d'Ascq......Jul 1

183. Chr. Cushing-murray (SMTC).3:57.70....(10).Vill.-d'Ascq......Jul 1

1992

184. Len Sitko (unat)...........*3:59.29i..(4)..Birmingham........Mar 14

185. Ernie Freer (Bull).........*3:59.04...(1)..Fresno............Apr 4

186. Steve Holman (Gtn).........3:53.31....(4)..Oslo..............Jul 4

187. Paul Vandegrift (WM).......3:59.60....(3)..Belfast...........Aug 31

1993

188. Erik Nedeau (NEn)..........3:59.68i...(1)..Boston............Feb 27

189. Aaron Ramirez (Miz)........*3:59.57...(3)..San Francisco.....May 15

190. Jim Sorenson (Reeb)........3:59.70....(4)..San Francisco.....May 15

191. Ronnie Harris (SM).........*3:58.03...(5)..Eugene............Jun 5

192. Bob Lesko (SM).............*3:58.23...(6)..Eugene............Jun 5

193. Danny Maas (Reeb)..........*3:58.83...(7)..Eugene............Jun 5

194. Mark Dailey (NYAC).........*3:57.16...(12).Oslo..............Jul 10

1994

195. Mark Sivieri (unat)........*3:59.85i..(2)..Boston............Jan 28

196. Dave Wittman (NikT)........3:59.28i...(2)..Notre Dame........Feb 5

197. Buck Jones (CNW)...........*3:57.43...(3)..Eugene............Jun 4

198. Shannon Lemora (NikO)......*3:57.47...(4)..Eugene............Jun 4

199. Benny McIntosh (Asics).....*3:58.25...(6)..Eugene............Jun 4

200. Chris Katon (unat).........*3:59.19...(9)..Eugene............Jun 4

201. Jon Warren (NikT)..........*3:59.30...(10).Eugene............Jun 4

202. Jim Howarth (NikRR)........*3:59.75...(12).Eugene............Jun 4

203. Shane Healy (BRC)..........*3:59.23...(7)..Cork..............Jun 25

1995

204. Brian Hyde (WM)............3:59.92i...(2)..Johnson City......Jan 28

205. Paul McMullen (EnMi).......3:57.34i...(2)..Notre Dame........Feb 4

206. Jason Pyrah (Miz)..........3:58.43i...(2)..Los Angeles.......Feb 11

207. Brad Sumner (NYAC).........*3:59.11...(2)..Philadelphia......Apr 29

208. Tom Nohilly (ReebE)........*3:59.75...(4)..Philadelphia......Apr 29

209. Gordon Johnson (Brk).......*3:56.24...(9)..Eugene............Jun 4

1996

210. Matt Holthaus (ReebE)......3:58.80i...(1)..Allston...........Feb 10

211. Michael Cox (Nik)..........*3:59.20...(1)..Lawrence..........Apr 20

1997

212. Dan Browne (Army)..........3:59.37i...(1)..Annapolis.........Feb 1

213. Corey Ihmels (IaSt)........*3:59.70i..(2h).Indianapolis......Mar 7

214. Alan Culpepper (adi).......3:58.15....(5)..Portland..........May 11

215. Richie Boulet (NBal).......3:58.62....(6)..Portland..........May 11

216. Karl Paranya (Hav).........3:57.6.....(2)..Haverford.........May 14

217. Jamey Harris (ReebA).......3:59.19....(1)..Stanford..........May 27

218. Marc Davis (Nik)...........*3:54.30...(8)..Nice..............Jul 16

219. Darin Shearer (CMS)........3:59.76....(2)..Falmouth..........Aug 16

1998

220. David Krummenacker (GaT)...3:58.62i...(2)..Gainesville.......Feb 7

221. Ryan Travis (Ar)...........3:59.69i...(1)..Ames..............Feb 7

222. Seneca Lassiter (Ar).......3:59.60i...(4)..New York..........Feb 13

223. Brian Gallagher (LaS)......*3:59.91i..(2)..Boston............Feb 14

224. Gabe Jennings (Stan).......3:59.32....(3)..Walnut............Apr 19

225. Brian Baker (NBal).........*3:58.80...(3)..Brunswick.........Jul 4

226. Michael Stember (Stan).....3:59.31....(5)..Brunswick.........Jul 4

227. Scott Anderson (ReebE).....3:59.80....(7)..Brunswick.........Jul 4

1999

228. Bryan Berryhill (CoSt).....3:56.52....(2)..Wanganui..........Jan 16

229. Tim Broe (Al)..............*3:59.38i..(1)..Notre Dame........Feb 6

230. Jonathon Riley (Stan)......*3:58.72i..(2)..Ames..............Feb 6

231. Adam Goucher (Fila)........3:57.63....(1)..Eugene............May 15

2000

232. Jason Lunn (FT)............3:58.42i...(2)..Boston............Jan 29

233. Rich Kenah (NBal)..........*3:59.43i..(6)..Fayetteville......Feb 12

234. Dwight Davis (Tulsa).......*3:59.29...(3)..Walnut............Apr 16

235. Sam Gabremariam (ReebE)....*3:59.17...(4)..Philadelphia......Apr 29

236. Steve Fein (Or)............*3:59.35...(3)..Eugene............May 13

237. Mike Miller (FTW)..........3:59.86....(5)..Eugene............May 13

2001

238. Alan Webb (VaHS)...........3:59.86i...(3)..New York City.....Jan 20

239. Dan Wilson (unat)..........*3:59.14i..(4)..Roxbury Crossing..Feb 4

240. Sharif Karie (Ar)..........3:59.60i...(6)..Fayetteville......Feb 10

241. Charlie Gruber (Ks)........*3:58.51i..(2)..Fayetteville......Mar 10

242. Jeremy Tolman (Web)........*3:59.99i..(6)..Fayetteville......Mar 10

243. Andy Downin (WRRT).........3:59.39....(2)..Des Moines........Apr 28

244. Clay Schwabe (Army)........*3:59.43...(4)..Princeton.........May 12

245. Ibrahim Aden (Nike)........3:56.95....(7)..Portland...........Jun 3

2002

246. Jeremy Huffman (FT)........*3:59.81i..(5)..New York City......Mar 1

247. Eric Garner (Wa)...........*3:58.93i..(1)..Seattle............Mar 2

248. Donald Sage (Stan)........ *3:59.49i..(2)..Seattle............Mar 2

249. Brandon Strong (AzSt)......*3:59.59i..(3)..Seattle............Mar 2

250. Ray Hughes (Nik)...........*3:59.78i..(4)..Seattle............Mar 2

251. Matt Lane (Nik)............*3:57.57..(10)..Eugene.............May 26