Jos Hermans Interview

Conjecture and a passing sound wrote:

I hold a persons integrity and innocence sacred until proven otherwise.

You have the level of niavete of a grade schooler.

the real mobile9 wrote:

WADA is doing a good job

How the hell would YOU know whether WADA is doing "a good job???"

A) they're at the track in Addis regularly

B) no one (least of all Africans) are getting free rides. If Gatlin's not safe no one's safe.

They won't be allowed to be anywhere near the track in Addis if they're likely to test positive. Do WADA ever venture anywhere else in Ethiopia to pursue individual athletes?

Tell if you're basing your assertion on anything other than pure conjecture. You don't f*** around with WADA. You get that third missed test and you're out -- just ask Ohuruogu.

The testers don't need to go anywhere outside of Addis because when they're not at the track, they'll drive up to the forest (around 3000m high) and will come back that day. If they're from Bekoji or Arsi, once they get picked up as part of the national team, they'll be based in Addis as long as they're on the team. Usually they'll make a bit of money and buy or build themselves a nie place in or just outside the city.

And they're always there. If one of them is doing two races in Europe a week apart, they'll go back to Ethiopia in between the races. They really believe in the altitude of Addis and the forest.

So, how could your position be changed on this subject?

Who cares what Hermens says? King of the dopers. He, Kostre and Rosa have done a lot to try and ruin the sport.

the real mobile9 wrote:

A) they're at the track in Addis regularly

B) no one (least of all Africans) are getting free rides. If Gatlin's not safe no one's safe.

If Gatlin hadn't been a criminal punk who insulted officials they'd have kept covering for him. Lots of people (especially Africans) are getting a free ride. It isn't all about money either. It's politics. The Africans are notorious for being away at some village "with no phone". Knock off your b.s. Look at Lagat's magical "false positive". If it had been Baala or Webb, they'd have sat on a bench for two years.

the real mobile9 wrote:

A) they're at the track in Addis regularly

So?

B) no one (least of all Africans) are getting free rides. If Gatlin's not safe no one's safe.[/quote] Nonsense.

Basically, you're going by appearances. So you really don't know.

And, as we've found out recently from an actual athlete, WADA doesn't target you unless they know you're clean.

The stupidest arguement I've ever heard. The IAAF is full of people who care about money. People bitch all the time about how Afrucan dominance is RUINING European and American interest in distance running and you're telling me that it's some sort of absurd AA? Show me one piece of evidence.

Did you read the report on Lagat's test? No rhEPO. None. Do you contend that is is IMPOSSIBLE to have a false positive under any and all circumstances?

Gee, that's odd, given that Koranyi's statements surround his 1998 finish at the ECs, and since WADA was founded in Nov 1999, how could they have been targeting him in testing in either the 1998 or 1999 seasons? Given that Koranyi retired in 2000, he was only subject to their testing for one year, so it wasn't WADA that was selectively testing him.

I will add this: let's assume you're right, and they only tested "known clean athletes" (nevermind the positive tests from Gatlin, Edwards, Kellie White, Gaynes, Boulami, Mourhit, Chepchumba...). Would it blow your mind to know that Lagat gets tested EVERY TIME in Europe? In one meet they said, "we're testing all the winners, and then the doping people grabbed the 3rd place Lagat for a sample.

hermans involved with maroccans the bigger cheaters inthe world as well and i heard they find his office full of EPO

how about that

WADA tests not only in addis .. but randomly picks athletes... at the running clubs. They test athletes that local races.

I am a member of the Ethiopian Banks Club... I work in the company.. and I have personally witnessed gebre gebremariam getting pulled from eating his lunch at the club. He was asked to go into a room and provide a sample.

It is the honest truth... if you don't believe it .. then screw you.

Why do algerians, moroccons get busted all the time.. and kenyans too... Ethiopians have only tested once...

This is BS and we know why you are saying this.

1 answer. you are sore loosers!

the real mobile9 wrote:

A) they're at the track in Addis regularly

B) no one (least of all Africans) are getting free rides. If Gatlin's not safe no one's safe.

Well this turned out to be untrue.

German press goes undercover in Kenya, finds evidence of EPO for sale to runners...

IAAF asks Kenyan Federation to investigate.

Kenya does nothing, literally, nothing for 3 months.

IAAF has to call them on it...

Highly unlikely out of season testing was being done in Ethiopia in 08...

there was no ooc testing in ethiopia in 08

they're only in the process of setting up a mobile testing lab now

hermens is connected to lots of dodgy doctors

he knows spanish doping docs are not in demand for the homeopathy

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics-claims-over-a-doping-network-are-crazy-says-hermens-425356.html

No OOC testing at all, or just no blood testing?