All-time top ten US American collegiate 5K list?

RunUpHill wrote:

Anyone know who Paul Geis was? The name is new to me. Was this time accomplished during his collegiate career?

'76 5k Olympian. 12th in the final.

Classic photo of him smiling at the camera passing John Ngeno in a dual w/ WaSt.

It looks like Geis ran in the '74 & '75 NCAA outdoor track finals, but this is labeled as the "3-mile run" and NOT a 5000m. This introduces another kink -- were there a lot of 5000m races available to collegiate runners in the '70's, or were most competitions of the 3-mile variety? I would doubt that record-keepers & statisticians would try to equate the two and "adjust" the times, since there's a decent amount of difference in the length of each race.

Off the Grid -- can you post a link to the "Classic photo", please?

U of O keeps 3 miles & 5k records

http://www.goducks.com/downloads1/37772.pdf?ATCLID=1415635&SPID=243&DB_OEM_ID=500&SPSID=5637

Not sure where the picture is....

Paul Geis was the last American male from the University of Oregon to make an Olympic final on the track (I'm considering the marathon to be a road race). Geis was in the 5,000 meters in Montreal in 1976, where he placed 12th. He was also NCAA champion for three miles in 1974.

That stat may change with Galen Rupp.

What did Adam Goucher run when he was at Colorado?

Goucher did not break 13:30 while at CU, I believe. He may not have even broken 13:40?

All-time NCAA Meet

1. 13:20.63 Sydney Maree Villanova 79

2. 13:21.79(h) Henry Rono WSU 78

3. 13:22.32 Ryan Hall Stanford 05

4. 13:22.54 Ian Dobson Stanford 05

5. 13:25.39 Rudy Chapa Oregon 79

6. 13:27.54 Nick Willis Michigan 05

7. 13:31.4 Steve Prefontaine Oregon 72

8. 13:31.64 Adam Goucher Col 98

9. 13:34.0 Greg Fredericks Penn State 72

10. 13:35.12 Chris Solinsky Wisconsin 07

11. 13:35.29 Chapa 78

12 13:37.82 Adrian Leek ETSU 79

13. 13:38.14 Joshua Kimeto WSU 77

14. 13:38.57 Samson Kimobwa WSU 77

15. 13:38.8 Suleiman Nyambui UTEP 81

16. 13:39.24 Tony Staynings WKU 77

17. 13:39.7 Richard Kaitany Iowa State 81

18. 13:39.88 Bobby Curtis Villanova 07

70s 1,2,5,7,9,11,12,13,14,16

80s 15,17

90s 8

00s 3,4,6,10,18

Let's try to keep with the thread topic...

XC score, you can scratch out Maree, Rono, Leek, Kimeto, Kimobwa, Nyambui, Staynings, and Kaitany -- I believe all of then were not U.S. citizens at the time.

But I'm still hoping to hear from someone to confirm or deny my original post; is Brent Vaughn now the #2 fastest 5000m American whilst enrolled in college?

What does it fcuking matter?

malmo wrote:

Here. Knock yourself out.

http://tinyurl.com/6x2l8b

I was looking at the 1989 10000 meters. Is this THE Todd Williams who finished 15th in 30:38? That is really bad for him. I didn't know that St. Cloud State had been in Division I.

gheo wrote:

I was looking at the 1989 10000 meters. Is this THE Todd Williams who finished 15th in 30:38? That is really bad for him.

Why is that bad? Williams was a sophomore with PRS of 14:14 and 28:57.

Off the Grid wrote:

Paul Geis 13:23.4 in '74?

I believe this was the year he sat out after transfering to Oregon, so technically he might not have been a colligate.

Doodlebug wrote:

I believe this was the year he sat out after transfering to Oregon, so technically he might not have been a colligate.

That was 1973. He won NCAA for Oregon in 1974.

Doodlebug wrote:

he might not have been a colligate.

"collegian"

CHESERET 13:13.23 Oslo 2005 while still in college, a head of Abdi, cheboiywo and Meb. Should be on the list.

5000m

1 Kibowen John KEN 13:07.74

2 Mosop Moses KEN 13:07.81

3 Kipketer Sammy KEN 13:09.16

4 Korir Shadrack KEN 13:09.92

5 Kipyego Bernard Kiprop KEN 13:09.96

6 Broe Tim USA 13:11.77

7 Limo Richard KEN 13:12.53

8 Cheseret Robert Kipkurgat KEN 13:13.23

9 Abdirahman Abdihakem USA 13:13.75

10 Kipsiro Moses UGA 13:13.81

11 Bakken Marius NOR 13:14.90

12 Worku Bado ETH 13:18.08

13 Cheboiywo Boaz KEN 13:19.56

14 Keflezighi Mebrahtom USA 13:20.71

15 Burka Gebo ETH 13:24.86

16 Aggoune Khoudir ALG 13:30.89

17 Lagat Nathan KEN 13:35.03

18 Riley Jonathon USA 14:01.35

CHESERET 13:13.23 Oslo 2005 while still in college, a head of Abdi, cheboiywo and Meb. Should be on the list.

5000m

1 Kibowen John KEN 13:07.74

2 Mosop Moses KEN 13:07.81

3 Kipketer Sammy KEN 13:09.16

4 Korir Shadrack KEN 13:09.92

5 Kipyego Bernard Kiprop KEN 13:09.96

6 Broe Tim USA 13:11.77

7 Limo Richard KEN 13:12.53

8 Cheseret Robert Kipkurgat KEN 13:13.23

9 Abdirahman Abdihakem USA 13:13.75

10 Kipsiro Moses UGA 13:13.81

11 Bakken Marius NOR 13:14.90

12 Worku Bado ETH 13:18.08

13 Cheboiywo Boaz KEN 13:19.56

14 Keflezighi Mebrahtom USA 13:20.71

15 Burka Gebo ETH 13:24.86

16 Aggoune Khoudir ALG 13:30.89

17 Lagat Nathan KEN 13:35.03

18 Riley Jonathon USA 14:01.35

my time was run in summer of 1974 in Helsinki between my junior and senior years of college. Pre set the American Record in that race, a second faster, but was either out of collegiate eligibilty or had graduated (not sure which).