why do people on letsrun hate Galloway

XCMiler wrote:

Just curious

Very few people actually make money selling books. Galloway is an exception. Good on him!

It's not the message that counts, but the bottom line net dollars after taxes.

Just think, millions of people purchase SUVs because they think it'll get them laid. These SUVs have huge profit margins. In the end, the SUV in most cases won't get the person laid. The same logic applies to his message of taking walking breaks.

SUV= Getting laid?

Where do you live, Arkansas?

SUV? Do you mean a BMW SUV?

'cause he made the Olympics and no one here ever will

and he's made his living off running

simple jealousy

There's plenty of others who have made the Olympics and make a living from running (whether books, training camps, speaking engagements, running stores, etc... Pfitz, Rodgers, etc, etc, etc). But none of them provoke such antipathy that Galloway does. So it's far more than greed or jealousy.

I think Skuj summed it up best when he described Galloway ditching the ideal... running without stopping. I think we can all remember when we began running that it was important and monumental for us to run the entire distance (whatever that distance might be) and having to walk felt like failure.

green-eyed monsters wrote:

'cause he made the Olympics and no one here ever will

and he's made his living off running

simple jealousy

Actually this site has been frequented by many Olympians. The dislike of Galloway has nothing to do with his Olympic credentials. It's that his walk-jog philosophy has dumbed down the sport (not the fitness aspect, but the sport) of running. Certainly there is jealousy, but it's because he's made a lot of money at it, not because at one time he was a world class runner.

I think it's fine to disagree with Galloway's method. But why would anyone bother to hate him just for his method? I see this a lot here at Let's Run: Hating others for no reason other than simple disagreement. I mean, if he was your high school or college coach and he was keeping you from excelling, then fine, hate him. But I don't get how anyone can churn up the energy to hate him because his running philosophy doesn't follow some macho stereotype. If he's getting a lot of sedentary couch potatoes into an exercise progam when they otherwise wouldn't have, great. What's wrong with that? Whether he makes millions this year, or zip, it's still not going to have any effect on anyone posting here at Let's Run.

DaveBedfordwannabe wrote:

SUV? Do you mean a BMW SUV?

Nope. People are actually stupid enough to believe that an SUV manufactured Hyundai will get them laid. It's true. You're just apparently out of that large demographic.

orbitboy wrote:

I think it's fine to disagree with Galloway's method. But why would anyone bother to hate him just for his method? I see this a lot here at Let's Run: Hating others for no reason other than simple disagreement. I mean, if he was your high school or college coach and he was keeping you from excelling, then fine, hate him. But I don't get how anyone can churn up the energy to hate him because his running philosophy doesn't follow some macho stereotype. If he's getting a lot of sedentary couch potatoes into an exercise progam when they otherwise wouldn't have, great. What's wrong with that? Whether he makes millions this year, or zip, it's still not going to have any effect on anyone posting here at Let's Run.

Because he is encouraging and promoting mediocrity at all levels. It is not enough for him to get new runners finishing marathons with his walk technique -- that would be fine. But he is making outrageously false claims along with it.

He is stating that walk breaks are the fastest way to complete a marathon. He is stating that elites take walk breaks. He states that elites who do not take thme could run faster if they took them when he KNOWS this is false. He is promoting a method that he himself never used to become elite

In short, he is lying. It\'s one thing to encourage people to run. It is another to lie to them. You dont believe it? Read on:

That's good enough for me, then. Screw Galloway!

Frankly, until recently I had never really paid any attention to him. I thought he was a "beginners" coach and had no idea he was claiming tha world class marathoners should or were walking.

Ever wonder why so many people golf?

Jeff Galloway is Mizuno sponsored, guys, so lately it's been buy a book, buy a Mizuno.

He betrayed the cult, the inner sanctum. Serious competitive and elite runners get to where they are by long, hard, painful work. And none of their non-athlete friends and relatives get it ("Why do you put yourself through so much pain?"). But the serious runners get it, and that forms a bond among them, a blood pact. They like the cult status and actually enjoy that others "don't get it." In the early 70s Galloway was charter member of that hardcore running cult, he ascended to its heights. But now he betrays it. And the thing is, he didn't HAVE to. Serious runners would still respect him if he simply said at the beginning of his books:

"When I was young in the early 70's, I ran like a maniac, an animal. Shorter, Bacheler and I beat each other's brains out. It was soooo painful, and we loved every sweat-soaked, gut-wrenching second of it. And where did all that pain and agony get me? To the freaking OLYMPICS, man. Doesn't get any better than that. BUT, I am now, like a lot of people my age at a different point in my life (job, marriage, kids, etc). So I run differently now, for different reasons. And although its apples and oranges, I enjoy it just about as much as in the 70s, but for different reasons. So if you are or want to be the kind of animal I was in the 70s, I get it, go for it, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. However, you should then look elsewhere for running advice. But if your life situation or aspirations are more like where I am now (you want to finish races more than win them, you do not want too much discomfort in races, you want to focus your training more on avoiding injury than on getting better faster, etc.), then I think my books will help you."

That's all he had to say.

I am new to group and am here trying to get justice for my moms who tragically died a few years ago while training for a half marathon whle running with Galloway groups. I want to let others know in hopes that maybe it might save someone’s life. No man left behind was the motto, when a runner needs to stop or slow down the group does the same. lol what a freaking joke

I am into piano playing where as you are into posting about it.

Racewalking should be replaced in the Olympics with Gallowalking.

They're already running anyway.

I am not sure what your point is, but seems like an odd response to a 17 year old thread. Your mom died while using this method, which no runner is left behind. Everyone stops for them. Was your mom Marco Pantini? What is justice for your mom, balls to the walls vs a measured approach? How does your post propose to save someone’s life, ditch the person walking or that needs to stop? No offense, but are you responsible for her death?

The way to do this is make a running biathlon event. Scheduled shooting breaks with Gallowalking towards targets pulled on a trailer.

Admit it. You miss the days of Gallowalking.