Jakobs traning data from Coros leading up to Olympics

If JI's easy training is suitably easy, an hour of easy running/XT could give the same training load as just 5-10 minutes of harder intervals.

So yeah, 54% of his training load being Z6 would still not be much of his overall training time, if all his easy training was Z1.

Thanks. Sort of what I figured. Although I've seen some people mention the race predictor seems to be fairly accurate. Not that anyone is really pacing themselves off of that. But that data has to come from somewhere. So I thought maybe the training load features had a bit more utility than Garmin since that particular feature seems to be more accurate at least.

This guy got downvoted, but it is pretty shocking to me that the person who made threshold training so popular appears to do no threshold training in competition season. This is definitely a break from Marius Bakken's training philosophy, which recommended one day a week of threshold through competition season. It also appears to be quite different from published accounts of Ingebrigtsen training from earlier in his career (and Henrik and Filip's career), which I think had them doing one threshold day per week up through their key competition.

I have so many questions. Is he focusing on 8.0-10.0 mmol/l on all these "Vo2-max plus" sessions or is he using some other metric to measure intensity? Does anyone have any idea what kind of training he does in competition season? I mean, he definitely got way faster between Pre (May 25) and Monaco (July 12).

Yeah. Regardless of whether his max HR is 193 or 196, the 5000 final data is almost certainly wrong. A 1:19 600 at the end of a 13:06 5000 is getting everyone's HR near max, even his. This data seems to show his HR going down(!?!) when he transitioned from 4:30 to 3:30 per mile pace in that last 600. No way. He wasn't wearing a strap in the race, so I think we can safely say that this is just bad data.

Interesting question, anyone have any thoughts?

Looks like the US training method was better in the 1500m

Yeah, we know that, bud.

Just about all watches these day do; but everyone also knows that HR detected at the wrist is notoriously inaccurate.

There just isn't enough flesh there for the optical sensor to detect the bloodflow through veins and tissues.

That's why you'll often see Jakob wearing an arm strap around his bicep (a much better place to detect HR). He wasn't wearing one in the final, so the data is likely just the inaccurate numbers from the wrist.

I imagine if the writer wrote the same article but instead using data from the 1500m it would be very similar, but of course not that attractive given the result.

But Kerr beat him?

It’s almost certainly true that he never bothered to update the default settings, which makes the data very difficult to interpret. But there does appear to be a massive drop in CTL in May, so he’s clearly altering his training in a major way in competition period. But with the zones likely not reflecting his unique physiology it’s hard to know *how* he’s changing his training. It’s certainly possible that Coros is interpreting 61 second threshold quarters at low altitude as Zone 6. But I would think the 2k repeats in the am he is also known for would register as something other than Zone 6, particularly if he was wearing a strap.

Yeah, we know about the strap, bud. However, it seems that "doubtful-data" did not know about the capabilities of the watch- the entire reason for my comment.

Won the battle, lost the war

And coros is complete junk.

Who went home with 2nd gold Olympic medal, and who went home being the next guy yet again ?

Kerr almost got another bronze if Nuguse just leaned a bit harder at the line too 😂😂😂

Dudes a beast

Last 6 laps 5:59

Last 5 laps 4:55

Last 4 3:53ish

Closed in 1:51-52

In the 5k

The point I was trying to make is that he said Jakob had an easy win but this was untrue as he didn't actually win the race dummy

How could he have lost the war when he won the last race? Are you saying he'd lost the "war" before the Olympic final because, since Kerr beat Jakob, nothing was swayed in Ingy's favour?

the comment about an 'easy win' was in the context of 'a 13 min race', which obviously means the 5000, which he did win.

For those of you who downvoted my prior post re: Jakob's apparent drastic reduction on threshold training in the competition season, how do you explain the nearly 50% drop in cumulative training load starting in May? Double thresholds create huge TSS, while leads to very high CTL. Eliminating those would account for that drop, and it's not obvious to me what else possibly could.