I mean. Jakob rarely, if ever, does a hard pace from 0-100. He sits in to it, and _then_ tightens the screw in his paced races. In this race, he came through 400 in WR pace, while having led from the gun.
This was a tactical mistake from him, and I think we'll acknowledge it - if he'd let the field lead to ~150-200, I believe the result would have been different.
He didn't make any excuses in the BBC interview but that result just proves that everything Kerr said about him was accurate.
He is surrounded by yes men. He is arrogant. He doesn't win a lot of unpaced races.
Trying to front-run an Olympic final from the gun is just pure stupidity and pure arrogance. That was never going to work. Everyone on here said he should wind it up from 1000-800 and that was the obvious tactic. We could see it. Why couldn't he?
"Arrogant" is a perfect one-word description of J.I.'s race.
Yes, and that's more or less exactly what he said. He said he felt so good that he misjudged his own opening, and then got too eager and had nothing left at the end.
This was what he said to NRK, no excuses, just explanations. Seems like he is more mature now, and did not look that disappointed:
- Of course I'm disappointed. It will be wrong. I feel quite strong and that is partly why it turns out the way it does, says Ingebrigtsen to NRK. He admits that the extreme speed from the start was a mistake. - I have so much energy that it gets a little too hard too soon, says Ingebrigtsen to NRK. He realized he got a small gap about halfway through the race. - And then you get a little excited. Will use the opportunity to stick out a little. Then it just got a little long. You are very good at analyzing such races, says NRK and continues. - Of course I'm disappointed, but there are many different reasons for things that happen. But it's a bit crazy that I'm ruining it for myself.
No excuse necessary. He ran a bad @ss race and entertained me to no end. Way more exciting than a sit and kick. That was electric. Could he go wire to wire? It turns out no, but I'm not mad at him for trying. It would have eclipsed even David Rudisha if he could have. I'm glad he went for it. Nothing to be ashamed of. I hope he breaks the world record later this year. The fact that Kerr nearly was third place vindicates him. He is still awesome, and now both of them have to recognize Nuguse and Hocker as equal competitors. Now the 1500m is the most competitive most interesting event in track. That wouldn't be the case had Jakob not gone balls out in that race. He really didn't die that bad for leading the race at world record pace. Kerr is the one who comes away looking worse imo, because he drafted the whole way, had perfect position, and still couldn't win it.
You bullies. There have been rumors for days here in Norway that he has stage 4 leg cancer and he would destroy that little man if he was healthy. Jakob will always be the greatest 1500m runner no matter how many times he loses. Cole was just the next next next guy. Don't be sad they're not better than they are Jakob.
Stage 4 leg cancer??? Jakob does?? Where is this source??
You bullies. There have been rumors for days here in Norway that he has stage 4 leg cancer and he would destroy that little man if he was healthy. Jakob will always be the greatest 1500m runner no matter how many times he loses. Cole was just the next next next guy. Don't be sad they're not better than they are Jakob.
Stage 4 leg cancer??? Jakob does?? Where is this source??
Sorry Gina, I saved the video to the cloud but I've lost it now. Next time it rains I'll try collect it and share it with you.
He won't make excuses, just bad tactics, if he stayed in lane one instead of worrying about Kerr he would have still lost but he'd probably have a medal. I wonder what excuse Kerr will have. He's fortunate to even get the silver.
He solo pulls the podium to 3.27, elevates the sport to unseen levels, creates drama, media, and anticipation. He is a godsend to our sport and will win the 5000. Put repect to his name.
Thats a bunch of crap. The goal of the Olympics is to win. He was dumb for his tactics and loss as a result. He didn't elevate anything maybe except in Norway. Darma doesn't make you great winning the big one does and he doesn't do. He just runs off his mouth and loses the big races. Is he a good runner? Yes, he is but no Goat for him. Too bad you can't accept it but history will look at his lack of accomplishments compared to the other greats, and he will be found wanting.
Talk doesn't make you great. No respect if you cannot back it up.
Your king lost to a man with a man bun. Let that sink in at dinner time.
He solo pulls the podium to 3.27, elevates the sport to unseen levels, creates drama, media, and anticipation. He is a godsend to our sport and will win the 5000. Put repect to his name.
Thats a bunch of crap. The goal of the Olympics is to win. He was dumb for his tactics and loss as a result. He didn't elevate anything maybe except in Norway. Darma doesn't make you great winning the big one does and he doesn't do. He just runs off his mouth and loses the big races. Is he a good runner? Yes, he is but no Goat for him. Too bad you can't accept it but history will look at his lack of accomplishments compared to the other greats, and he will be found wanting.
Talk doesn't make you great. No respect if you cannot back it up.
Your king lost to a man with a man bun. Let that sink in at dinner time.
Dumb take "Lack of Accomplishments" 1 Olympic Gold (soon to be 2 after the 5K), 1 Olympic Silver 2 World Champ Golds, 2 Silvers 3 Diamond League Wins 3 World Records, 3 European Records, 2 Norwegian Records 4th fastest 1500m of all time etc.
When all is said is done, he'll likely have at least a few more Olympic/World Champ medals and probably the 1500/5K world records.
my read was he briefly waited for someone else to push the pace early (only real possibilities would have been Cheruiyot or maybeee Nuguse), but when no one else went off super hot, he went to the lead and then had to immediately make things very fast in an attempt to avoid a replay of Budapest/Eugene (where he pushed the pace but not hard enough to break the fittest contenders). the potential failure mode was obvious and happened.
result for us as fans was the most entertaining possible version of this race.
it will be interesting to see if in future 1500m finals JI finally adopts the tactics that most LRC posters advocate (conserve energy early then gradually grind people down from 800m-1k out). not foolproof by any means, given the strength/speed combo of the other top 4-5 runners in the world right now - but would be fun to see how that version of the race plays out. very much respect his ambition/stubbornness up until this point.
I do think there's a chance (<50%) JI moves up after this season particularly if he has 1-2 solid WR attempts this summer.
I think the new baby is a HUGE lifestyle change, but Jacob won't use it. Having a baby is a massive change to your life and can take months to get back to normal if ever.
Thats a bunch of crap. The goal of the Olympics is to win.
Not according the founder of the modern Olympics.
From the interwebs: According to Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Olympic Games, the most important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning, but taking part. He emphasized that the essential thing in life is not conquering, but fighting well.
In his own words: “The important thing in the Olympic Games is not to win, but to take part; the important thing in Life is not triumph, but the struggle; the essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”
This philosophy is reflected in the Olympic Creed, officially recognized by the International Olympic Committee, which states: “The important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning but taking part, just as in life, what counts is not the victory but the struggle.”
Jakob fought well, imho. He exemplified the Olympic spirit. Elevated the whole thing by doing so.