With Tim being back in 3:28 shape and stated he was getting fitter everyday over the last 3 weeks and Jakob in 3:26, you can ALMOST guarantee it's going to be 3;28 or faster winning time. The top 3 will most likely require 3:28.9 or better and I guess it's up to Hocker to prove he can go way under 3:30.
Hocker closed a 3:30 in 52 to clearly win the Trials (with 2 rounds in his legs) and we don't think he can go way under 3:30? He closed in 52 to win the Trials in 2021 in a 3:35 race, and Centro pushed him all the way to the line, and he got down to 3:31 and 6th at the Olympics. Now he can run 5 seconds faster with the same close. I think he'll be ready to run 3:28, maybe faster, but between Tim, Jakob, Kerr, and Nuguse, 3:28 may not be enough to medal. Kerr ran 3:29.0 in Tokyo for bronze and he's a lot better now. Tim seems to be about the same level, Jakob is way better, and Nuguse will hopefully be in 3:27 shape again.
Past that top 5, Brian Komen just ran 3:28, and Nordas almost pipped Jakob at Worlds last year. He hasn't been as good this year, but he just ran 3:31.0, so he may just be coming along at the right time. I remember thinking after Oslo last year that he'd have run 3:28 if he hadn't been stuck behind a wall of people. It's stupid deep, and even if Hocker is in 3:28 low shape, there's no guarantee it'll be good enough to medal.
That's where you are wrong sir, you misunderstanding everything, you have been deceived by Hocker the dope cheaterbug at the trials, period. His 2021 52 close in 3:35 was legit clean but not his obviously tainted 52 close in 3:30 in 2024 and I was able to make the accidental discovery by a huge stroke of luck actually because Nuguse was such a reliable reference point from which I was able to deduce everything about Hocker. Without Nuguse in 2023/2024 and all that he had done and performed, I would have been gullible enough to miss out Hocker's 52 close in 3:30 as tainted!!!
I think Jakob is running 3:26 high/3:27 low in the final. So unless Kerr improves his PR at age 26 with more than 2 seconds, he isnt winning.
Kerr running a PB at 26 won’t be easy, but it’s far from impossible. He’s already destroyed his mile best with 3:45.34 earlier this season when his previous best was 3:48.87 at BU in 2022. Jake Wightman was 28 in Oregon 2022 and ran a PB of 3:29.23 to beat Jakob in the 1500m final. I agree that Jakob’s going to run something quick, but 3:26 in an unpaced race has quite literally never been done before. I definitely think he can better El Guerrouj’s 3:27.65 as the fastest 1500m in a global final, but everything will have to be right for Jakob to run something that fast.
Be serious folks, the comments I read from you folks are just pure wishful thinking you know that????
You folks really think Jakob goes out from the gun and runs 3:26/27 after 2 rounds and some of the best kickers and accelerators on the planet earth like my man Josh KERR??????
Be serious man, that's not happening in any universe dimension. Jakob will lead the race partially I agree, but he isn't going to lead it from wire to wire. He is going have to outsprint everybody in the first 100m just to get to the bend first and for what????? As if getting 1st to the bend wins you the Olympic gold in the final step??????
So, I'm sorry, the best case scenario I see is Jakob leading from 1100m or 1000m out and that means it will not be fast enough to be a 3:26/27 race. It might be a 3:29 or 3:28 race if Jakob really goes hard from 1000m out but it's a very long way to retain mental focus and concentration, too much mind energy would have been wasted this way, leaving my man Josh KERR to ambush Jakob from behind just tagging along like a train, easy and relaxed, and then outkick him in the final 200m again.
Not interested in a Hocker, he is a good for nothing and a disgrace, for me, to American distance running. I don't even want to think about this cheat in my mind.
I'm only interested mainly in Josh KERR and the list is absolutely misguided. Sure, Jakob has the fastest season's best time of 3:26:73 but do you folks really think Josh KERR can't be 3:26:53 or something????? You folks really condescend towards Josh KERR that much????? You think he can't be in the conversation for the 3:26:00 WR?????
Or so what if Josh KERR is 3:29:05 right now, why would it matter greatly in a championship final and a kicker's race?????? Thus, whether 3:26:53 ot 3:29:05 what matters is that it all boils down to who has the best kick man on man, and best ability to open up their stride to cover real estate in the last 100m, the best mental resilience and mind strength/power, and only Josh KERR has shown evidence in this region.
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I think Hocker can definitely surprise some people, but with how the fields looking so far, I think Nuguse has a better chance to podium.
Definitely man, I would pick the sissy arm swinging Nuguse any time over that illegitimate pretender and cheater Hocker. I will root for the lesser of 2 evils and that is Nuguse's terrible biomechanical technique over Hocker's tainted performances.
Those picks will look funny when Hocker wins the gold!
I think you are speaking about Hocker the Crook and not Hocker the Shocker.
Josh KERR is the shocker instead, he shocks you with his performances and sprint finishes. Man on man, pound for pound, inch for inch, Josh KERR is the best kicker of the mile in the modern era and that always wins championships, always!!!!!!
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Kerr running a PB at 26 won’t be easy, but it’s far from impossible. He’s already destroyed his mile best with 3:45.34 earlier this season when his previous best was 3:48.87 at BU in 2022. Jake Wightman was 28 in Oregon 2022 and ran a PB of 3:29.23 to beat Jakob in the 1500m final. I agree that Jakob’s going to run something quick, but 3:26 in an unpaced race has quite literally never been done before. I definitely think he can better El Guerrouj’s 3:27.65 as the fastest 1500m in a global final, but everything will have to be right for Jakob to run something that fast.
Be serious folks, the comments I read from you folks are just pure wishful thinking you know that????
You folks really think Jakob goes out from the gun and runs 3:26/27 after 2 rounds and some of the best kickers and accelerators on the planet earth like my man Josh KERR??????
Be serious man, that's not happening in any universe dimension. Jakob will lead the race partially I agree, but he isn't going to lead it from wire to wire. He is going have to outsprint everybody in the first 100m just to get to the bend first and for what????? As if getting 1st to the bend wins you the Olympic gold in the final step??????
So, I'm sorry, the best case scenario I see is Jakob leading from 1100m or 1000m out and that means it will not be fast enough to be a 3:26/27 race. It might be a 3:29 or 3:28 race if Jakob really goes hard from 1000m out but it's a very long way to retain mental focus and concentration, too much mind energy would have been wasted this way, leaving my man Josh KERR to ambush Jakob from behind just tagging along like a train, easy and relaxed, and then outkick him in the final 200m again.
Be serious folks, the comments I read from you folks are just pure wishful thinking you know that????
You folks really think Jakob goes out from the gun and runs 3:26/27 after 2 rounds and some of the best kickers and accelerators on the planet earth like my man Josh KERR??????
Be serious man, that's not happening in any universe dimension. Jakob will lead the race partially I agree, but he isn't going to lead it from wire to wire. He is going have to outsprint everybody in the first 100m just to get to the bend first and for what????? As if getting 1st to the bend wins you the Olympic gold in the final step??????
So, I'm sorry, the best case scenario I see is Jakob leading from 1100m or 1000m out and that means it will not be fast enough to be a 3:26/27 race. It might be a 3:29 or 3:28 race if Jakob really goes hard from 1000m out but it's a very long way to retain mental focus and concentration, too much mind energy would have been wasted this way, leaving my man Josh KERR to ambush Jakob from behind just tagging along like a train, easy and relaxed, and then outkick him in the final 200m again.
You need to be institutionalized.
Needless comment from you! You do know what I really need right now and that is Josh KERR winning the Olympic 1500m gold, nothing else I need!!!!
On the other hand, I don't think you and the rest of the folks on LRC like you understand the absurdity of Jakob leading from gun to tape in a 3:26/27 race after 2 rounds and after 3 days. That alone should have been enough criteria for the institution of psychiatry, not me so thank you and get out of my face.
au contraire. KHAMIS entertains in a way not seen since ^vento/calculo. Her/his/its expertise in Kerrs leg-opening sprint form is too strong to be denied. This expertise can only be the product of hundreds of hours of slomo closeup inspection of Kerr closing vids in her/his/its parents basement.
KHAMIS should check out the David Coleman fetish moment "Juantorena opens his legs and shows his class!" for further inspiration.
El Guerrouj faced tough competition from Ngeny and Lagat (both were 3:26 guys). Kerr is good, but he's no Ngeny.
Kerr is no Noah Ngeny but neither is Jakob a Hicham El King Guerrouj right???
El G was the only athlete in the history of 1500m running that bucked the inverse relationship trend of losing major championships despite having the fastest PB in the field.
El G should have won 96 Atlanta because he trounced Morceli like a piece of meat in the Golden League races subsequently, and outkicked him by 10 meters. El G was clearly the dominant runner in the lead up to the 96 Olympics and after but this is not the case with Jakob in 2022, 2023 or 2024. El G wasn't getting beat and shamed by Morceli in any 1500m race in 2 years leading up until 96 Olympics except the final in which he fell but Jakob had been shamed so many times by so many men in 2 years leading up to 2024 Paris Olympics.
And that's because El G was the legit GOAT of the mile/1500m and as I said earlier underwritten by the largest loping stride length in 1500m/mile history. Watch all his WR mile and 1500m videos and you can see how El G bounds from one foot to the other in almost 1.5-2 times further/longer than even Josh Kerr himself, let alone Jakob!!!!!!!!!
And remember El G did that with heavy and unresponsive shoes compared to Josh and Jakob.
So while El G bucked the inverse relationship trend but that's because he is just the most gifted miler of all time. Whereas Jakob has only fit perfectly into the inverse relationship trend!!! He keeps losing major championships 1500m finals since 2021 despite coming in with the fastest PB or season's best time for that year.
Therefore, is Jakob an El G or El G in making????? Absolutely not!!!!!!!
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au contraire. KHAMIS entertains in a way not seen since ^vento/calculo. Her/his/its expertise in Kerrs leg-opening sprint form is too strong to be denied. This expertise can only be the product of hundreds of hours of slomo closeup inspection of Kerr closing vids in her/his/its parents basement.
KHAMIS should check out the David Coleman fetish moment "Juantorena opens his legs and shows his class!" for further inspiration.
I'm a real man btw, not a she or in between. Definitely not hundreds of hours, but at least 10minutes of continuous painstaking retrospective video analysis. That's how I'm able to tell you that Hicham El King Guerrouj had the single largest loping stride of all time in 1500m/mile history at the point in space-time of his 1500m and mile records respectively in 1998 and 1999!!!!!!
El G spread opened his legs the widest and largest in these 2 years in these 2 respective races and dominated the 1500m/mile like never seen before. When his domination started to wane ever so slightly after Sydney 2000, that was also the time he no longer spread opened his legs as wide or as large as in 1998 and 1999. So already El G was in physical decline ever so slightly after 1999, and his decreasing stride span/width indicated it, simple as ABC!!!!
Look through the videos again, even the El G version in 1997, 1996 and 1995 didn't spread opened his legs as wide as the El G WR version in 1998 and 1999 respectively. So it's little wonder why El G didn't also dominate as strongly in 1995, 1996 and 1997, or 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 compared to 1998, 1999 and 2000 which were 3 of his best years in between!!!!!
Yes I do know about Alberto Juantorena the 400m/800m gifted athlete. He also had very huge stride width but he runs a different event halfas long as 1500m/mile. In general, it's common sense that 400m and 800m runners like David Rudisha who is the WR holder for 800m would be able to spread open his legs even wider and larger than 1500m/mile WR holders like El G or Morceli, you feeling me sir????? Because the speeds faster so the legs obviously need to cover more real estate with each stride right?????? In order to reach the finish line at a faster average speed!!!!
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I’m not so bullish to say “zero chance,” but it’s odd that they put Nordas ahead of Brian Komen on a “form chart.” Komen has spanked him the two times they’ve raced this season and those were two of Nordas’s better 1500 results on the year.
For me I don't really care about who fills up the lower places and positions, I only care about my man, the one and only, the best 1500m of the modern era Josh KERR!!!!!!!!!
I care that he wins the damn thing alright!!!!!!! He has the best acceleration, best change of pace, best finishing kick, largest stride length, best biomechanical STEALTH technique what is there not to like about him sir?????
He is a LOCK FOR GOLD!!!!!!!!
If you are so confident and believe he is a lock there are betting markets giving you 5/2 odds. Go put your life savings in it.
Hobbs definitely deserve to be mentioned in the top 10 but if it's is a winning time of 3:28.5 or faster than that will hurt Hobbs. If it's that fast I don't see any American man grabbing a medal. No not even Yared as he won't ever put himself in the best position needed to serious contend and conserve unwarranted energy lost til the final kick
El Guerrouj faced tough competition from Ngeny and Lagat (both were 3:26 guys). Kerr is good, but he's no Ngeny.
Kerr is no Noah Ngeny but neither is Jakob a Hicham El King Guerrouj right???
El G was the only athlete in the history of 1500m running that bucked the inverse relationship trend of losing major championships despite having the fastest PB in the field.
El G should have won 96 Atlanta because he trounced Morceli like a piece of meat in the Golden League races subsequently, and outkicked him by 10 meters. El G was clearly the dominant runner in the lead up to the 96 Olympics and after but this is not the case with Jakob in 2022, 2023 or 2024. El G wasn't getting beat and shamed by Morceli in any 1500m race in 2 years leading up until 96 Olympics except the final in which he fell but Jakob had been shamed so many times by so many men in 2 years leading up to 2024 Paris Olympics.
And that's because El G was the legit GOAT of the mile/1500m and as I said earlier underwritten by the largest loping stride length in 1500m/mile history. Watch all his WR mile and 1500m videos and you can see how El G bounds from one foot to the other in almost 1.5-2 times further/longer than even Josh Kerr himself, let alone Jakob!!!!!!!!!
And remember El G did that with heavy and unresponsive shoes compared to Josh and Jakob.
So while El G bucked the inverse relationship trend but that's because he is just the most gifted miler of all time. Whereas Jakob has only fit perfectly into the inverse relationship trend!!! He keeps losing major championships 1500m finals since 2021 despite coming in with the fastest PB or season's best time for that year.
Therefore, is Jakob an El G or El G in making????? Absolutely not!!!!!!!
I shouldn’t bother with this troll post but in case anyone is deceived, the narrative that El G definitely *should have* won in Atlanta as he’d surpassed Morceli by that point is bogus. El G had established himself as a legit challenger, but Morceli entered the games with a SB marginally faster than El G’s PR (3:29.50 vs. 3:29.58), and much more importantly, a 55 race winning streak at events over 800m dating back to August of ‘92. In 1995 he’d run 3:27.37 and 3:27.52 and won Worlds by 1.55 seconds over El G in 2nd.
El Guerrouj was not a lock in 1996 without a fall but he won in 3:29/30 in Brussels, Zurich, Stockholm, and Nice, while Morceli won in 3:29/30 in Paris, Rome, and Rieti, plus Atlanta.