My money's on Clayton finishing in front (of him) in Paris.
I had Clayton ahead of him after seeing the trials. The more I looked at the Paris course though, this plays went into Mantz’s strengths. A hillier course does better for scrappier/cross country type runners. I hope this race is gruesome because it will only help Mantz. Think how Molly Seidel medaled
12M@4:46/M is 1:02:28 half marathon pace, 2:05:56 MP. That is two minutes faster than his marathon pr and only 90s slower than his half marathon pr. So, if it were at sea level it would be pretty close to a half marathon time trial and well ahead of marathon pace. But it was at 4500 feet. 12M@4:46/M (57:12) at 4500 feet converts to 54:59 at sea level. That is 4:35/M, roughly American record pace. So, it was essentially a half marathon time trial at faster than pr pace for 12/13.1 of the way. He's in good shape but it's a good thing he has time to recover because this kind of hero workout often leaves you flat for the race.
He's in good shape but it's a good thing he has time to recover because this kind of hero workout often leaves you flat for the race.
If I've learned anything from the Keeping Up with the Mormons videos Clayton Young is posting on youtube, no one is a bigger workout hero that Mantz (and few people are more insufferable, clout gobblins than Linkletter)
I mean, even if he's 20th place that's actually not a horrible result by any means. he's 27 and has probably a full decade longer of world-class running
I am gonna get hated on but 20th actually is pretty bad considering the historically strong African nations are capped at 3 entries. That’s the reason people like Meb can get silver — lots of people blow up in any given marathon, sometimes 2-3 from the same country.
20th would Mantz is not only losing to 6-9 Kenyan, Ethiopian, Ugandan & other African stars, which we already knew were better than him, but 10ish European, Asian, South American, and North American people. Mantz should have realistic hope of being in the top 5-6 non ETH/KEN/UGA athletes. That would put him in the 6-12/13 range on a decent day, like Ritz/Hall were able to do.
I already expect great things from him. I think he is going to do well on that difficult marathon course. Rumor is that it is going to be mental race, and I think that is in Mantz's favor. I think he will run for broke and come up big. I am excited to watch both marathons. I think our women will do well too.
I hear that the course and heat could see the winning time around 2:12. If our boys are prepped well for the elevation gain and heat, they could top 10 with a smart race. Jared Ward is probably a great mentor considering how he ran Rio.
Running in Park City@7k ft doesn't accumulate you for the heat and humidity. Gee I wonder why we see in every YouTube, Kenyans wearing tights and wind breakers in 80 degree heat.
In the midst of 120 mile weeks done in six days, 7000ft+ of elevation gain weekly, and living and training in Park City, he just ran a 12 mile tempo at 4:46avg at 4500 feet. Expect great things in Paris!
I already expect great things from him. I think he is going to do well on that difficult marathon course. Rumor is that it is going to be mental race, and I think that is in Mantz's favor. I think he will run for broke and come up big. I am excited to watch both marathons. I think our women will do well too.
12M@4:46/M is 1:02:28 half marathon pace, 2:05:56 MP. That is two minutes faster than his marathon pr and only 90s slower than his half marathon pr. So, if it were at sea level it would be pretty close to a half marathon time trial and well ahead of marathon pace. But it was at 4500 feet. 12M@4:46/M (57:12) at 4500 feet converts to 54:59 at sea level. That is 4:35/M, roughly American record pace. So, it was essentially a half marathon time trial at faster than pr pace for 12/13.1 of the way. He's in good shape but it's a good thing he has time to recover because this kind of hero workout often leaves you flat for the race.
I don’t disagree with your last point about leaving races in workouts, which is one of my biggest fears/criticisms about Mantz, along with too little recovery after actual marathons. But the conversion you used is just ludicrous. 4500’, while deserving a conversion, isn’t nearly as hindering as 6000’+. It deserves about a 4-5 sec per mile conversion, tops. Still a solid run.
I hear that the course and heat could see the winning time around 2:12. If our boys are prepped well for the elevation gain and heat, they could top 10 with a smart race. Jared Ward is probably a great mentor considering how he ran Rio.
Running in Park City@7k ft doesn't accumulate you for the heat and humidity. Gee I wonder why we see in every YouTube, Kenyans wearing tights and wind breakers in 80 degree heat.
I truly hope you don’t vote or operate heavy machinery.
Running in Park City@7k ft doesn't accumulate you for the heat and humidity. Gee I wonder why we see in every YouTube, Kenyans wearing tights and wind breakers in 80 degree heat.
That's right. I could live at altitude but I figure it's cheaper to do all my summer training at noon. while wearing a trash bag son. to be like the kenyans you feel me.
