Good post. I feel the same way. Hardly a certainty that he would be comfortable jumping barriers and water. I was a 6'2" miler and never liked jumping. Those that are comfortable clearing barriers have a talent. May be that Teare would be a good steepler. I'm guessing that 5000m is his best event.
How will we know if he never gives it a try?
Do you think the US 5K teams will get any easier to make as Young, Wolfe, and Blanks develop into their mid 20s?
Nothing wrong with giving it a try. Makes sense. Whether or not he takes to the event is something else. If I were betting, I'd say that the 5000 remains his best event.
Would be great if he turned out to be the next Jager.
I am sorry you are not yet an olympian. I am sorry that you had some terrible races this weekend.
You are a better 5000 runner than a 1500 runner. To be down in Eugene and the heat and have to to race 5 times in hot 80 degree weather is nwver gonna go well. 3 1500s is a lot of racing before 2 5000s.
You need to pick your spots better. In heinsight you were never making that 1500 team and you and your coach should have been able to see that. You can compete with abdi and the collegiates, but you're making mistakes off the track.
Look at Fisher he flew back to Utah to recover as best as he could. All the other guys were fresh because they knew hpw hard these teams are to make. Grant is the american record holder from 3k to 10 and this is his 2nd and third titles. The olympic trials are really hard. I need you to be more focused and more prepared.
Fixes: you are not allowed to run championship 1500s anymore. I dont care if you run the wr in the mile. Mo Farah ran 3:28.
You're gonna get your head up and go to london to race fisher in the 3000 and kick his ass
Finally run a 10k next year so that you understand the 5 is a hell of a lot better than racing the ten.
Or scrap all this and do the steeple
Sincerly,
a fan
Given that his 5000 PR equates to a 3:31.14, I'd say it's pretty obvious that the 5 is his best event. That 1500 title in 2022 was the worst thing that could have happened to him seeing how he thinks that made him a true miler.
Do you think the US 5K teams will get any easier to make as Young, Wolfe, and Blanks develop into their mid 20s?
Nothing wrong with giving it a try. Makes sense. Whether or not he takes to the event is something else. If I were betting, I'd say that the 5000 remains his best event.
Would be great if he turned out to be the next Jager.
Nothing wrong with giving it a try. Makes sense. Whether or not he takes to the event is something else. If I were betting, I'd say that the 5000 remains his best event.
Would be great if he turned out to be the next Jager.
Jager made a 5000 team at 21
He ran 8:00.4 after falling over the final barrier. Would have gone under 7:58.00
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Given that his 5000 PR equates to a 3:31.14, I'd say it's pretty obvious that the 5 is his best event. That 1500 title in 2022 was the worst thing that could have happened to him seeing how he thinks that made him a true miler.
Thats a damn good reason for him to believe he's a true miler.
Have any of you guys actually experienced life? or sports in general? Sometimes athletes experience down days/months/years. Most times its YOUR expectations are unrealistic. Athletes just don't perform at there best everytime just because you want the to. When that happens you blame them for their bad preparation/training/coaching/strategy or in the case of Mu, she doesn't know how to run in a pack. You guys even go so far to say its a character flaw when they fail. How many times do the most ignorant of our sports fans point their fingers at the best in the world proclaiming "He/she needs to learn this, or that..." You are all just ridiculous! Theyve forgotten more than you'll ever know yet somehow the best in the world are in dire need of advice from message board losers?
In each event there are dozens of stories. Even more opportunities for disappointing results. Can't you just accept that sh/it happens? Can't you ever just move forward and appreciate brilliance when it happens.
The mens 1500 was a rare as it gets. Nobody was struck down with misfortune, everyone (almost) ran PRs. Damn that was beautiful.
This was the best Olympic Trials ever. Maybe even the best Track Meet of all-time if you really think about it.
I had no problems appreciating the OT for what is was objectively, and for the subjective drama presented to us.
Teare will have better days many of them, in fact. But not in the steeplechase. Squash all talk about him running the honey badger of track events until he first dines on a few cobras.
Cooper’s hips sit lower when he runs than the other 1500 guys, seemingly preventing him from “lifting” at the end of championship style races. Another season of running the 1500 at trials is another wasted season. He probably has to go all in on mileage, given that I’ve read he runs lower than the big boys in the 5000.
I followed his NCAA career, followed his old YouTube, follow his new YouTube. Nothing in this thread requires someone to come to Cooper’s defence; all I see here is people who want him to do well but see the writing on the wall.
Had this discussion this morning in the office. He is a bizarre case in that he really strong PR's - especially over 5000m, but can't parlay his ability over the 1500m/mile (which are also very good PR's) into any real weapons or tools over that distance.
His greatest race was the US title in 2022 in that stupidly slow race (3.45.8) where he closed in 51.9 but that race now seems like a total career aberration.
So you'd think the 5 has to be his best event but he isn't strong enough to pull a Fisher/Abdi (even though Abdi hasn't even broken 13 and is slower than him over 1500) and he doesn't have the power to kick with even a kid like Wolfe let alone Hocker if it got really greasy and slow through 4000m
If you asked me what the go-to power/archetype of all the top American male 15-5k guys was I could tell you - except for Cooper Teare. I have zero clue what he is great at. Zero. And that might sound harsh like I don't think he's a good runner and it's not that at all - I just don't see any path for him to ever make a team again.
Thats a bit harsh. The path is kinda simple. Run fresh, go all-in. He doesn’t have a notably bad kick like McSweyn let’s say. He’s just not good enough to have split focus or to move down to an event that he’s not suited for.
Dear Cooper, stop running the 1500 and start training for the heat. Run on a treadmill in front of heat lamps and hit the sauna every day. Sincerely, colorunner123.
Given that his 5000 PR equates to a 3:31.14, I'd say it's pretty obvious that the 5 is his best event. That 1500 title in 2022 was the worst thing that could have happened to him seeing how he thinks that made him a true miler.
Thats a damn good reason for him to believe he's a true miler.
Have any of you guys actually experienced life? or sports in general? Sometimes athletes experience down days/months/years. Most times its YOUR expectations are unrealistic. Athletes just don't perform at there best everytime just because you want the to. When that happens you blame them for their bad preparation/training/coaching/strategy or in the case of Mu, she doesn't know how to run in a pack. You guys even go so far to say its a character flaw when they fail. How many times do the most ignorant of our sports fans point their fingers at the best in the world proclaiming "He/she needs to learn this, or that..." You are all just ridiculous! Theyve forgotten more than you'll ever know yet somehow the best in the world are in dire need of advice from message board losers?
In each event there are dozens of stories. Even more opportunities for disappointing results. Can't you just accept that sh/it happens? Can't you ever just move forward and appreciate brilliance when it happens.
The mens 1500 was a rare as it gets. Nobody was struck down with misfortune, everyone (almost) ran PRs. Damn that was beautiful.
This was the best Olympic Trials ever. Maybe even the best Track Meet of all-time if you really think about it.
I had no problems appreciating the OT for what is was objectively, and for the subjective drama presented to us.
Teare will have better days many of them, in fact. But not in the steeplechase. Squash all talk about him running the honey badger of track events until he first dines on a few cobras.
Thats my final answer.
Malmo,
I agree that this was one of the best OTs ever. Lots of close races with fast times. We have a great team going to Paris. I also agree that in general, this message board is filled with whining haters who think they know more than the athletes and coaches in the OTs. Opinions are fine, but a little respect is warranted here.
As someone noted, Teare CAN kick, he just didn't do it well here. He was previously the US champ in the 1500 and College record holder in the indoor mile. However, Teare probably does have a better chance in the 5000. His coach probably will tell college runners what event they need to run, but likely lets professional decide for themselves. Did the 1500 leave him flat? Maybe. Did he peak at the wrong time? He ran 12:54 just 4 weeks before, so unlikely. Was he fighting illness/injury? Maybe. Is heat a problem for him? Only he can tell us those things. I hope he makes more US teams.
Small thing, but Mu's fall was 100% her fault for moving left in the pack for no reason. It is not an isolated event. That is the definition of not running well in a pack. In contrast, watch the knocking and stumbles in the men's 800 final and they all stayed upright. Sorry she did not make the team because she is a heck of a runner. But the US qualification system is fair. It picks the best runner under pressure on the day, similar to the Olympics.