She indicated that she felt she had a better chance in the 10K, but I’m not so sure she prefers it to the 5K.
I think she’ll do both of given the chance. There’s 3 days off between the 5K final and the 10K. She also said her legs feel great after all of the racing she’s done recently. She should be good to go for both.
Might as well do both if she is qualified and ESP drops out of the 5
They both just barely passed Chelimo Melly. The problem is that contrary to what's been said above, the athletes themselves have to be eligible, and because the U.S. only has 3 qualified right now including Monson, Monson dropping out means her spot goes to Elly Henes, NOT Klara Lukan. And Izzo getting removed does nothing as 8 spots have to go to ranked XC athletes regardless. They need 2 athletes in with either the standard or ranking excluding Monson and Eilish McColgan (as her spot would go to Samantha Harrison) to drop out. Otherwise those spots will be going to Katie Izzo and Elly Henes. It's a waiting game now.
Terrible take. You have to have BOTH sufficient ranking AND finish top three. Henes and Izzo are out.
No you don't have to finish top 3 if people in the top 3 aren't eligible to be selected. If anyone in the top 3 isn't eligible to be selected they go down the list based on finishing place at the Trials until they have 3 eligible athletes selected. This happened in the Men's 1500 in 2022 for example, where Johnny Gregorek placed 6th at USAs but got to run at Worlds because people who finished ahead of him weren't eligible to be selected but he was. It's the same selection procedure for Worlds and Olympics.
While she is obviously in if she finishes top 3 in the 10,000 trials and gets the standard of 30:40, there are also a few other scenarios where she might get in. Currently the bubble based on world rankings is 1236pts (Haruka KOKAI). Her 30:50 performance at Bryan Clay was worth 1221. So she needs 1251 pts from the trials.
- If she finishes 3rd she'd need 30:51, (1201 pts + 50 bonus for 3rd)
- If she finishes 2nd she'd need a 31:02, (1191 pts + 60 bonus for 2nd)
- If she wins, she'd need a 31:13 (1181 pts + 70 bonus for 1st)
I'd expect her to try to run 74 second laps. That puts her on 30:50 pace.
The points system is a joke. Top 3 should go period
Rogers finished ahead of Izzo and seems to still be ahead of Valby and Schweizer, so if Valby and Schweizer aren’t in the quota, could it be Henes and then Rogers over Izzo?
Like I said, Izzo being removed doesn't free up a spot for the U.S. as 8 athletes have to be selected based on XC ranking regardless of who they are so her spot would go to the next athlete in the XC ranking list. And with 1 dropout Klara Lukan is the 27th athlete in and she's above Rogers, and with 2 dropouts both Valby and Schweizer become eligible and would be selected. So there is no way for Rogers to get in.
While she is obviously in if she finishes top 3 in the 10,000 trials and gets the standard of 30:40, there are also a few other scenarios where she might get in. Currently the bubble based on world rankings is 1236pts (Haruka KOKAI). Her 30:50 performance at Bryan Clay was worth 1221. So she needs 1251 pts from the trials.
- If she finishes 3rd she'd need 30:51, (1201 pts + 50 bonus for 3rd)
- If she finishes 2nd she'd need a 31:02, (1191 pts + 60 bonus for 2nd)
- If she wins, she'd need a 31:13 (1181 pts + 70 bonus for 1st)
I'd expect her to try to run 74 second laps. That puts her on 30:50 pace.
The points system is a joke. Top 3 should go period
If you're not one of the best in the world you shouldn't be at the Olympics. That's why so many small countries hardly send any athletes to the Olympics. We can't have rules for America and then rules for everybody else.
While she is obviously in if she finishes top 3 in the 10,000 trials and gets the standard of 30:40, there are also a few other scenarios where she might get in. Currently the bubble based on world rankings is 1236pts (Haruka KOKAI). Her 30:50 performance at Bryan Clay was worth 1221. So she needs 1251 pts from the trials.
- If she finishes 3rd she'd need 30:51, (1201 pts + 50 bonus for 3rd)
- If she finishes 2nd she'd need a 31:02, (1191 pts + 60 bonus for 2nd)
- If she wins, she'd need a 31:13 (1181 pts + 70 bonus for 1st)
I'd expect her to try to run 74 second laps. That puts her on 30:50 pace.
The points system is a joke. Top 3 should go period
There's a limited number of places in the 10k and the US is no more entitled to those places than any other country.
And he says that the US would bump the other women ahead of her. That remains unclear to me if it means bumping out of the ranking while bumping one into the ranking.
While she is obviously in if she finishes top 3 in the 10,000 trials and gets the standard of 30:40, there are also a few other scenarios where she might get in. Currently the bubble based on world rankings is 1236pts (Haruka KOKAI). Her 30:50 performance at Bryan Clay was worth 1221. So she needs 1251 pts from the trials.
- If she finishes 3rd she'd need 30:51, (1201 pts + 50 bonus for 3rd)
- If she finishes 2nd she'd need a 31:02, (1191 pts + 60 bonus for 2nd)
- If she wins, she'd need a 31:13 (1181 pts + 70 bonus for 1st)
I'd expect her to try to run 74 second laps. That puts her on 30:50 pace.
She could also just go run a 10,000 in Europe in hopefully better conditions to try to get the standard. If Purrier St Pierre gives up her spot in the 5000, then Valby is in, yes? Either way, she deserves to be on the team. She made both races for all the qualifiers. That took courage and fortitude and slammed the door on all the naysayers criticizing her form, etc.
While she is obviously in if she finishes top 3 in the 10,000 trials and gets the standard of 30:40, there are also a few other scenarios where she might get in. Currently the bubble based on world rankings is 1236pts (Haruka KOKAI). Her 30:50 performance at Bryan Clay was worth 1221. So she needs 1251 pts from the trials.
- If she finishes 3rd she'd need 30:51, (1201 pts + 50 bonus for 3rd)
- If she finishes 2nd she'd need a 31:02, (1191 pts + 60 bonus for 2nd)
- If she wins, she'd need a 31:13 (1181 pts + 70 bonus for 1st)
I'd expect her to try to run 74 second laps. That puts her on 30:50 pace.
She could also just go run a 10,000 in Europe in hopefully better conditions to try to get the standard. If Purrier St Pierre gives up her spot in the 5000, then Valby is in, yes? Either way, she deserves to be on the team. She made both races for all the qualifiers. That took courage and fortitude and slammed the door on all the naysayers criticizing her form, etc.
Would a race paced for the standard be a possibility?
The points system is a joke. Top 3 should go period
If you're not one of the best in the world you shouldn't be at the Olympics. That's why so many small countries hardly send any athletes to the Olympics. We can't have rules for America and then rules for everybody else.
Exactly so people like Izzo who at 90+ secodns slower than Valby should never go to the Olympics ahead of her
If you're not one of the best in the world you shouldn't be at the Olympics. That's why so many small countries hardly send any athletes to the Olympics. We can't have rules for America and then rules for everybody else.
Exactly so people like Izzo who at 90+ secodns slower than Valby should never go to the Olympics ahead of her
So blame them for allowing qualification by XC ranking. If they didn't add that policy we wouldn't be having this discussion as Valby and Schweizer would be easily qualified.
The rankings close today, so no time for any standard-chasing.
Too bad they can’t just petition given she has the standard in the 5000, meaning she’s capable of getting it in the 10,000 (just 10 seconds off at her previous PR). Hopefully it’s a moot point. Valby is capable of the standards and deserves to be on the team given how she raced. Hopefully she’s in in the 10,000 or Purrier St Pierre lets her have it in the 5000. Or both.
The points system is a joke. Top 3 should go period
There's a limited number of places in the 10k and the US is no more entitled to those places than any other country.
That's true but ignores the main issue, which is that the standard is too tough, and the idiocy of letting slower runners qualify with cross country races, plus by competing in certain not generally accessible privileged races that give more points than other ones.
By just having a time standard as in the past, followed by other close rankings based on single times regardless of the venues, and doing away with the point and cross country favoritism, then most of the issues would be clear and easy to rectify.
