Girls left in the dust as male-born transgender athletes win state track titles in 5 states

It is not a complicated matter.

I really don't think most people care if Caitlyn Jenner lives as a woman. In a social sense, being transgender basically doesn't affect anyone else. Similarly, I don't think most people have a problem with same-sex marriage because no one has to marry a member of the same sex if they don't want to. It's a matter of living in a free society and minding your own business about something that really doesn't affect you.

The issue with transgender females is that sports are segregated by sex specifically because of female biology, which would effectively keep biological females from ever having an opportunity for success in sports if they weren't segregated. So successful transgender females do affect the rights of others because the whole point of female sports is to prevent biological females from having to compete against biological males. You end up having a clash of rights between people who want to treat being female as a biological condition and those who want to treat it as a psychological condition or social construct.

There could be plenty more out there,and perhaps even a few that compete against boys.Surely they dont all compete in girls races?

All law is enforcing a belief system.

Leftists know this, hence their extremely successful march through the institutions the last six decades. Normal people have a romanticized view of institutional neutrality (whereby they negligent to understand "neutral" is in the eyes of the beholder), hence why they lose.

To the people on the board saying some variation of "I support transexuals, just not in this one specific case" you both don't understand the movement you are going along with, and have zero principals whatsoever on the issue. It makes no sense to say "if someone believes they are a woman, then they are a woman" (i.e. the determining factor of reality is a subjective belief) on one hand, and then get upset to see those 'women' compete against other woman on the other.

Unless and until you can tell boys who dress up as girls (or whatever other outward expression of their ailments) that their delusions are actually delusions, that transexualism is a specific permutation of a sickness and that they are suffering from a mental illness no less serious/real than someone suffering from PTSD or OCD, you have no standing at all to criticize when this happens. It is well and truly what you want. Not even a slippery slope, it is just actually the logical conclusion of what you want/voted for.

Good for her. I wish her the best of luck being her authentic self.

notice its a girl that wouldn't be competitive in either boys or girls?

I must have dug way too deep in the archives to troll people on this one.

Hildegard would have dominated some state meets back in the day.

It’s not fair.
Where did Democrats pass legislation to enable this?

Sports have their own governing bodies to deal with this.
Politics don’t run everything.

Since Republicans hate women, I’d assume they are in favor of males dominating females.

people calling democrats left wing is the funniest thing and shows a complete misunderstanding of the political spectrum. democrats are the same capitalist fascists just with pronouns instead of jesus. also good for her for winning those state titles. go girl

The governing bodies are standing around watching this happen, letting it happen, and doing absolutely nothing because they're either scared of offending someone, or they really don't understand biology.

did anyone actually read the article and check out the times and marks of the winning athletes. one of the girls won an 800 in 2:19! thats slow af compared to other states. CA girls state champion was 2:07 by comparison. weak fields doesn't mean they had an advantage, it just means the other girls sucked a lot more

Tennessee v. Cardona in the U.S. District Court in Eastern Kentucky

June 17, 2004

"Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 was intended to level
the playing field between men and women in education. The statute tells
us that no person shall be subjected to discrimination under any
education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance “on
the basis of sex.” 20 U.S.C. § 1681. However, the Department of
Education seeks to derail deeply rooted law with a Final Rule that is
set to go into effect on August 1, 2024.
At bottom, the Department would turn Title IX on its head by
redefining “sex” to include “gender identity.” But “sex” and “gender
identity” do not mean the same thing. The Department’s interpretation
conflicts with the plain language of Title IX and therefore exceeds its
authority to promulgate regulations under that statute. …"

Aren't Dems the best.

Actually, June 17, 2024

Can they do this?

Is anybody, any governing body, fighting this?

Here's how crap like this works.

Once upon a time, no one thought that very many people would wish to change their gender, let alone compete in sports while doing so. Those people wrote up some rules for high school competition that were intentionally very vague to guarantee that women and people of color could compete in sports. At the time, this pissed off a bunch of extremist people, but common sense and fairness prevailed. High school sports flourished and lots of people that had been shut out of sports for various reasons.

Jump forward a few decades and a handful of transgender individuals want to utilize those same vaguely worded rules and bylaws to have their chance to compete in scholastic sports as the gender which they identify as. No one worried about it until some male-to-female athletes not undergoing hormonal treatments or gender affirming surgery started winning titles. International bodies were quickest to act and implemented rules to keep their respective sports fair. Those changes have no effect in American high school sports and absolutely no standing in U.S. courts. That is why we find ourselves in the current situation - legally, no one is able to stop MTF athletes from competing as women in high school.

OK, let's change the rules! We'll make it fair for all and create a path for transgender athletes to have equal opportunity to participate. "Not so fast!", say the lawyers, "You must allow my client to compete as a fully recognized woman or else we will sue for the right to compete as women AND we will seek damages!".

In these tough times, no school district or state athletic authority can afford to mount multiple legal defenses nor can they chance losing. If you live in a red state, your legislature is probably going to pass some poorly written and emotionally charged law into place that will likely not pass Constitutional muster and court challenges. Those legal cases will take 5-8 years to end up at SCOTUS only to be tossed out.

Live in a blue state? Your legislature won't do anything about it for fear of looking bad or because...why? It's not their core voters upset over this. They will just circle the wagons and, in time, some other cause like police reform, affordable housing, or universal preschool will crowd out this non-problem.

This really isn't a problem that can be laid at the feet of any political party. Just as Madison couldn't envision machine guns, bump stocks, and hold ups when he drafted the Second Amendment, pre-2000s Republicans couldn't foresee transgender school sports being an issue. The Democrats? They didn't cause this either. There is no legislation that guaranteed access to high school sports for transgender people, just measures that protected such people from discrimination in hiring and housing. Sure, they want to talk about it now and hit each other with it but see my points above as to how they cannot effectively deal with it.

I don't know what the solution is. What I do know if that no one seems brave enough to craft a pragmatic solution or to find a fair middle ground. Sadly, this is going to be with us for a while because I don't see things changing. Both sides can get TV time and fundraise off of it so letting it fester serves a purpose. For those of you with daughters in the crossfire, make sure that you support them, advocate for them, and let them know that their athletic journey means far more than a medal at state. Talent still gets recruited and collegiate coaches live in reality.

How is this still a thing to argue about? Just get rid of the boys/men's division and replace it with an open division already. Everyone and anyone is welcome to participate in the open division. Biological women are then welcome to opt in to the women's division instead if they prefer.

I don't think so.

The problem is, see my name.

Many of these kids are drama queens and are just in it for the attention. the drama. the controversy. The shock value. They want to compete as girls for all of the above reasons. They're not NOT competing as girls.

If you think I'm ridiculous, then you obviously don't have any involvement with middle/high school age kids. The attention seeking and drama is at an all time high.

In a few months or years, the phase will pass. And many of these boys will be boys again.

I think you really understate how difficult it is to change the law. As I understand it Leftists have used Title IX of the Civil Rights Act to justify transgender rights. They have not changed the law, they have simply reinterpreted it, deciding that it encompasses transgender rights, even though there is absolutely no evidence that the law was intended that way. Do you know how difficult it would be, politically and legislatively, to rewrite the Civil Rights Act? That cannot be undone with the stroke of a pen. It’s the third rail of American politics.