He’s either 19 or turns 19 next month. Either way that’s really old freshman for college. Meaning he’s a year older than your typical HS senior. This is wildly known by current top HS coaches and spoken about.
Enters college at age 19
Goes on mission until age 21
Takes redshirt year to get fit, now age 22
Four years of eligibility (assuming no med reds or hardships granted), finishes NCAA at age 26
Many elite Africans have global medals and have retired by this age. We still pretend such athletes are still college kids and some celebrate them crushing 19-year-olds as if they were true peers.
What NCAA rule keeps colleges from taking 26-30 year olds that trained in the Army WCAP program and making them "fresh" collegiate athletes once they are discharged? So long as they didn't take prize money, they collected a government paycheck for being a soldier. Their clock didn't run while serving.
He’s either 19 or turns 19 next month. Either way that’s really old freshman for college. Meaning he’s a year older than your typical HS senior. This is wildly known by current top HS coaches and spoken about.
If anyone could provide ANY kind of source it would make this thread more than worthless. For now I’m inclined to believe he’s a normal age for a HS senior, possibly having turned 18 in January.
If he does in fact turn 19 next month, it means he’s 1 to 13 months older than a typical kid in his class. This would be a small advantage, but come nowhere close to DQing how great it is to run 13:25 closing in 57 at that age; we’d all tip our caps to a kid running that as a youngish true college freshman. I don’t want to jinx him, but he seems good enough to be largely beyond being “exposed” in the NCAA, since he’s so close to being seriously competitive at that level already.
Why is it so difficult to know exact birth dates of US athletes?
From this thread, he is either younger than Sahlman, Ritz, Martin and Webb were when they graduated OR he is older than Flatt and Boling were when they graduated.
Why is it so difficult to know exact birth dates of US athletes?
From this thread, he is either younger than Sahlman, Ritz, Martin and Webb were when they graduated OR he is older than Flatt and Boling were when they graduated.
His WA profile has no birthdate but I suppose at some point it will be added. Being recently or soon 19 would be slightly old but nothing notable.
The biological differences between highschoolers dwarfs the age differences. You have fully developed giants at 13/14 and boys who are barely hitting puberty at 17.
I don't get this statement about Engelhardt. Engelhardt will be 18 during her senior year of track and field. Nearly everyone is 18 during their senior year of track and field--I certainly was, and I was not old for my year.
Engelhardt will turn 19 at the beginning of her freshman year of college. This is not even remotely unusual. People with birthdays at the end of August/beginning of September can go either way--they are either the very youngest of their classmates or among the oldest. But those who are among the oldest are not "held back" or *unusually* old for their year. It literally happens all of the time, and parents with children born in this window know that it is a choice either way.
According to his coach Timo he will be 19 when he starts college this fall.
When did he say that?
I was at a farewell (when a missionary leaves) for another athlete from Utah last July and Danny was there and he said his birthday was January 20th or something (can’t remember what day exactly)
I don't get this statement about Engelhardt. Engelhardt will be 18 during her senior year of track and field. Nearly everyone is 18 during their senior year of track and field--I certainly was, and I was not old for my year.
Engelhardt will turn 19 at the beginning of her freshman year of college. This is not even remotely unusual. People with birthdays at the end of August/beginning of September can go either way--they are either the very youngest of their classmates or among the oldest. But those who are among the oldest are not "held back" or *unusually* old for their year. It literally happens all of the time, and parents with children born in this window know that it is a choice either way.
This, along with the fact that I think cutoff dates constantly change as time goes on. Back when I started school, the cutoff was as late as October, meaning that people born that month would be the oldest, with September being the youngest. If that applied today, Sadie would've graduated this year.
However it's changed a lot since then, and at least as far as I know, the cutoff is as early as July/August. I had a friend who turned 18 the July before our senior year and he was never back nor started late.
I think July is the most logical cutoff anyway, as it prevents 13 y/o's from entering HS and 17 y/o's from entering college
Are you restarted? Yes it is. You are supposed to be 17, turning 18 during your senior year whenever your birthday is. Sadie just happens to have an early birthday.
If she was C/O 2024, she would be among the youngest in her class, and that would've sucked.
You probably were too, judging by how you can't seem to understand that.
It all comes down to when your birthday is. For me, the earliest could be July 1st, with the latest being June 30th. Meaning that, for C/O 2024 for example, the kids born July 1 would be the oldest, while June 30th kids being the youngest.
Once it becomes July 1st again, the cycle repeats for the following class
Yeah, it's not a new phenomenon or strategy. holding a kid back a year in school gives them a huge advantage in most aspects of academic and physical development. now imagine you hold a January birthday back a year before putting them into kindergarten. that kid is, in some cases, two full years older than his/her peers in the classroom for the whole ride.
It just reminds us of the importance of birth year age categories in sports. US athletics from high school through to the end of college uses an archaic system of class years instead and then allows this kind of (fully within the rules) manipulation.
I get that the US also has age based club running and championships, but it's nowhere near the force of nature that the school athletics system is.
If you were a genetically gifted, live vicariously through pushing your kid into (insert sport here) power couple you'd be stupid not to hold your kid back a year at age 4 given the resultant head&shoulders above exposure and opportunities it creates.
Personally I believe the loophole needs to be closed within the rules.
I call it the Kindergarten Redshirt.
It's only necessary to do this if your child WILL be among the youngest in their class IF you decide to enroll them in Kindergarten that year. Typically, that happens primarily with kids born from July/August to October or even November.
I was born in September, but I was C/O 2023, and when I graduated I was still 17, turning 18 that following fall. It sucked, as I was too young for my grade, like a few other kids I knew.
In a situation like mine, the best decision would've been to delay enrollment by a year, like what should've happened with me.
I would've rather graduated this year with C/O 2024 as a now-18 year old instead of graduating a year early at 17 and not being 18 until a month into college.
We don't know if her parents held her back. She might've just started Kindergarten the same time as the rest of her class. She's just older and that's that.
It's not that it's "not normal" to be 19 going into college, it's just uncommon, because you'd have to have a July/August birthday for that. But that doesn't make it strange or unusual.