If you are healthy your hormones tell you to stop eating. If you are insulin resistant or have hormonal imbalances your hormones will not tell you stop eating.
Hunger is a hormonal response not a decision. When your cells need energy they will send a hormonal signal to your brain which makes you feel hungry.
Almost every obese person is insulin resistant. Insulin is the hormone that allows the sugar to leave the blood stream and entire the cell where it's burned for energy. When the sugar never gets into the cell the cells continue to send the hunger hormone to the brain so despite drinking 1000 calories of soda and having a stomach that sloshing around and full the person will still "feel" hungry.
But before they became "insulin resistant" (if that's your diagnosis/prognosis for what you define as "obese") they were definitely deciding to overeat.
Not necessarily. If you eat a high carb high fat diet you will eat less food by volume than a person eating a healthy balanced diet but over time you will still gain weight.
It's much easier to "overeat" when you're consuming the processed carbs the modern western diet is plagued with.
Sounds like you are not disagreeing with anything I actually said or the incorrectness that I pointed out of the specific strong claim of the other poster: “There’s no SATIETY in just straight carbs/sugar”.
I understand if you just want to say random obvious things like your first sentence and keep building on that.
You posted your feelings as if they had any bearing at all on how other people respond to carbohydrate.
I think there's a lot of "obvious" things you don't quite understand yet.
Let’s talk after you learn to read what’s written.
Calories is neither here nor there. Your body has an hormonal response (read: insulin, peptide YY, others) to what you eat. For example, if someone goes to a baseball game and drinks 1,000 calories of soda, his body releases INSULIN to store those calories, but the person is still hungry. There's no SATIETY is just straight carbs/sugar. So, then he orders a hot dog.
Counting calories alone is useless. because your body has a different response *depending on what those calories are composed of* (protein, fat, or carbohydrate). Does that make sense? In the above study, people double their calories and lose weight - obese people went from "semi starvation diets" to normal eating to lose weight.
"Weight loss is 90 - 95% what you eat, maybe 10- 5% exercise" - internal medicine doctor who writes books on nutrition
SOUNDS LIKE HE ATE MORE CALORIES THAN HE EXPENDED THERE
You posted your feelings as if they had any bearing at all on how other people respond to carbohydrate.
I think there's a lot of "obvious" things you don't quite understand yet.
Let’s talk after you learn to read what’s written.
"Really? What planet are you on? I will feel satiety eating just white rice or dates or pita chips or white bread other simple carbs. I can’t down 1000 calories of soda in the course of watching a game, but even just a normal sized sugary drink suppresses my appetite a bit."
You're reporting your feelings... Your feelings have nothing to do with how other people process carbs.
Don't over think it. Exercise more, eat less processed garbage
I eat chipotle 3x per week and it's good. But McDonalds or some crap food would be different. don't get queso or any soy 'meat' and it's very healthy albeit slightly high in sodium
That's interesting. I can eat a bag of dates (though I've stopped eating basically any as they're INFESTED with bugs typically - just look at halal and kosher diets and see how stringent they are about dates or search it on reddit) and barely feel fuller, but a much smaller caloric equivalent of broccoli makes me feel full
The craziest thing for me is creme brûlée - I don't eat it often, basically only at a steakhouse, but I can eat a whole 16 oz steak and barely feel full, and then take 2 bites of it and feel stuffed
Don't over think it. Exercise more, eat less processed garbage
Or just eat less calories than you burn.🤷
Again, this is the old school mentality.
What ends up happening is your hunger signal gets stronger and stronger until you eventually end up overeating.
You need to avoid ultra-processed garbage, so that you get all of the nutrients you require and also feel full, otherwise you won't sustain the calory restriction.
Also, not all calories are made equal; you need to think about your gut microbiome.
No claims to having any knowledge of nutritional science, but I've found that if I'm injured and I stop training I put on weight. I start training again and the weight comes off.
That tends to indicate to me that just upping calories burned tends to result in weight loss.
Calories is neither here nor there. Your body has an hormonal response (read: insulin, peptide YY, others) to what you eat. For example, if someone goes to a baseball game and drinks 1,000 calories of soda, his body releases INSULIN to store those calories, but the person is still hungry. There's no SATIETY is just straight carbs/sugar. So, then he orders a hot dog.
Counting calories alone is useless. because your body has a different response *depending on what those calories are composed of* (protein, fat, or carbohydrate). Does that make sense? In the above study, people double their calories and lose weight - obese people went from "semi starvation diets" to normal eating to lose weight.
"Weight loss is 90 - 95% what you eat, maybe 10- 5% exercise" - internal medicine doctor who writes books on nutrition
The only way to lose weight is to consume less calories than you use.
Exercise can help reduce body fat, but it can also lead to weight gain (more muscle).