If they are plateless I doubt she (her team) made them herself, because trying to extract that plate without ruining the shoe is probably next to impossible.
What makes your think they are "plateless"? If they were Vaporflys, they have carbon plates.
In Valby's post race interview with Citius, Valby said Nike made them special for her with the spikes, interesting.
Additionally interesting is whether she wears them for the 5k Saturday, in which the collegiate Outdoor record could be broken. Makes sense too, unless they want to also try and go for the OlyStandard.
The thinking is probably her ranking will be determined from Bryan Clay (in which she wore spikes) and the Trials race that she will have to finish Top 3 in.
The thinking is probably her ranking will be determined from Bryan Clay (in which she wore spikes) and the Trials race that she will have to finish Top 3 in.
The thinking is probably her ranking will be determined from Bryan Clay (in which she wore spikes) and the Trials race that she will have to finish Top 3 in.
lol, downvoter doesn’t understand facts. 😂
Wow, the downvote went away. Who has that capability except an LRC insider?
Valby would be lapped by the best women in the world. Should you even consider yourself a champion at that point?
Running faster distance times than Sifan Hissan did at the same age means she is a credible talent, but RoJo said she will never break 14:30.🙄
And that is coming from a so-called ‘informed journalist’ of the sport, which further reveals his MO is to use this site to perform hatchet jobs on athletes. 😠
I know that Gwen Jorgensen had a pair of these as well. They were made for her by someone at Nike in Beaverton and were never intended to be released as a production shoe. The guy who made them was/is super clever and they were hardly any heavier than the regular Vaporflys.
Personally, I would love to have a pair since I run a lot of my tempo runs on the track and the track is also wet (PNW = rainy Winters).
There were two points about the shoes made by SS, and you are overlooking one of them:
(1) Removed internal plate.
(2) Added spike plate.
A competent DIYer could add a spikeplate; not so wrt trying to remove the internal plate. The latter was done in the original manufacture of the shoe.
Who is SS? Where did it say the spike plate was removed? How could they remove it without cutting up the shoe? Or is it is "Vaporfly" that never had a plate put in? If that were the case, the shoe would be too mushy (just foam would be terrible).
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, since I didn't see any "SS" and didn't see it mentioned in the Chris Chavez post (on X).
Can't get onboard with this. Anyone winning a track 10k in Vaporflys needs an asterisk at the very least. It's like letting one swimmer use the shark suit while everyone else is in a standard costume. The fact that this wouldn't be allowed in a WA event tells you that whatever this was it is not the same sport. But good ol' Nike, never giving up on the Al Sal, win at all costs ethos.
There were two points about the shoes made by SS, and you are overlooking one of them:
(1) Removed internal plate.
(2) Added spike plate.
A competent DIYer could add a spikeplate; not so wrt trying to remove the internal plate. The latter was done in the original manufacture of the shoe.
Who is SS? Where did it say the spike plate was removed? How could they remove it without cutting up the shoe? Or is it is "Vaporfly" that never had a plate put in? If that were the case, the shoe would be too mushy (just foam would be terrible).
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, since I didn't see any "SS" and didn't see it mentioned in the Chris Chavez post (on X).
Salvatore Shatmore(sp?) on the Day 2 thread. He didn’t say it was removed; he said it was “plateless”. “Too mushy”<<<there was some discussion on the tradeoffs of that on the thread. (But who knows, maybe the plate is actually still in it.👀)
Can't get onboard with this. Anyone winning a track 10k in Vaporflys needs an asterisk at the very least. It's like letting one swimmer use the shark suit while everyone else is in a standard costume. The fact that this wouldn't be allowed in a WA event tells you that whatever this was it is not the same sport. But good ol' Nike, never giving up on the Al Sal, win at all costs ethos.
You didn’t read Canova’s reasoning on why it should be acceptable? That’s okay…he’s said some ‘interesting’ things in the past.
In Valby's post race interview with Citius, Valby said Nike made them special for her with the spikes, interesting.
So I take it a record post-collegiate deal with Nike is incoming? They are throwing Oregon Project-level resources at her.
After that recent Runners World blurb on contract negotiations, I take it as them demonstrating to Parker, in their courting of her, that they can flex muscle. But per the article, maybe 🤷🏼♂️her Dad is saying “but she wants to get paid.” lol😆
Can't get onboard with this. Anyone winning a track 10k in Vaporflys needs an asterisk at the very least. It's like letting one swimmer use the shark suit while everyone else is in a standard costume. The fact that this wouldn't be allowed in a WA event tells you that whatever this was it is not the same sport. But good ol' Nike, never giving up on the Al Sal, win at all costs ethos.
You didn’t read Canova’s reasoning on why it should be acceptable? That’s okay…he’s said some ‘interesting’ things in the past.
Giving one person in a race equipment of bespoke construction (rather than just a unique cosmetic design) goes against the ethos of track and field. We don't know that it confers a competitive advantage, but we know that these shoes weren't reasonably available to everyone in the race. It's not a level playing field.
You didn’t read Canova’s reasoning on why it should be acceptable? That’s okay…he’s said some ‘interesting’ things in the past.
Giving one person in a race equipment of bespoke construction (rather than just a unique cosmetic design) goes against the ethos of track and field. We don't know that it confers a competitive advantage, but we know that these shoes weren't reasonably available to everyone in the race. It's not a level playing field.
I’m not sure how your “ethos” interpreatation accommodates the hundreds of different models of shoes out there on NCAA tracks, not counting any personal mods that have been made to the shoes. Maybe the NCAA has rules on the subject.
sI just got a call from a European visitor who wanted to know why NCAA athletes who ran 10,000s in super shoes like the Vapofly are still having those performance show up as coutable in WA rankings?I told her I didn't know an...
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