You can compare his numbers in Giro to some others. Just google lanternerouge top climbing performances.
1100W for 5 seconds is nothing close to a very competent pro sprinter. Even I can do that if it's only for 5 seconds.. Look up Jonathan Milan's power data from this Giro. I think 1400 W for 20 seconds is something a top road sprinter should have. For track sprinters, max power should be > 2000 W
Who knows if he’s doping. Probably is. But to be fair, he was racing B-level competition in this Giro. Let’s see what happens in the Tour. And even then, the next 3 best grand tour riders are all coming off injuries from the big crash at Basque Country. He could run away with that too, but I doubt he will have as many stage wins because even the stage hunters not going for GC will be stronger than in the Giro.
You can chalk the 2022 Tour up to a stronger Visma team and better tactics, but Vingegard absolutely cracked Tadej on stage 16-17 last year. He’s not invincible.
It's not about who he's beating. It's that he just climbed 18km at an average of 6.2W/kg and close to 7W/kg over the final 3 or so miles. He touched 900W at sections in that final run to the summit - to put that in context, if you can maintain 1100W for 5 seconds you are considered a very competent pro sprinter - and that's not after riding close to 100 miles over hills.
The level of cheating here is astronomical.
1100W isn't much for a pro. GMBN's dirt jumper/slopestyle mountain bike presenter Blake Samson can do1850 watts. He very easily beat GCN's retired (not very good) pro sprinter Hank (James Lowsley-Williams), who says he can do 1200 watts, on a bunch of hill sprints in this video:
The cobbled climbs of races like the Tour of Flanders are really tough! But riders like Wout van Aert, Marianne Vos, and Mathieu van der Poel all have one th...
bah. wrote: Folks here don’t understand some basic axioms of running as well as cycling: 1) The key skill is to win without failing a test. 2) If you haven’t failed a test, you are clean. Doesn’t matter if you don’t like or believe it.
Td gf gf wrote: You sound like rekrunner
Sorry, but these "axioms" do not reflect my beliefs.
1) The spirit of sport is to try to win while behaving ethically at all times, including without doping and/or cheating.
2) Without going into criticisms of WADA's simplified science and law, even if you fail a test, you may still be clean: In 2019 (latest report pre-COVID), WADA reported that 57% of AAFs resulted in ADRVs (with 20% still pending). 11% were dismissed for valid medical reasons, and 10% of the cases were closed for other valid reasons, and 2% resulted in exoneration with No Sanction.
100% true. The goal is to win and not clearly violate the rules. If you think you can achieve that being absolutely natural and honest, it is like saying you can be Mr. Olympia with no roids.
He touched 900W at sections in that final run to the summit - to put that in context, if you can maintain 1100W for 5 seconds you are considered a very competent pro sprinter - and that's not after riding close to 100 miles over hills.
At my best ~20 years ago I did 1000W for 6 seconds. I was a low end Cat 3 and not a sprinter.
And 6.2 W/kg for an hour isn't even full gas for Pogacar. I remember in a past interview that Pogacar's target FTP in the tour will be 6.5 W/kg
Pogacar far surpassed his 6.2 W/kg power from the Giro where he demolished everyone and was holding back tons. Now we know why it looked so easy for him to be ahead by 10 minutes at the Giro, Pogacar's actual hour power is at least 6.96 W/kg and likely far higher than that. With that kind of power, Pogacar could easily been ahead by over 30 minutes ahead of everyone at the Giro if he wanted to instead of holding back.
"Pogačar did 6.98 ᵉW/Kg for 39:50 min, which is by far the greatest climbing performance ever, taking into account conditions and the stage difficulty. Sea normalised power for this historic effort is 7.27 ᵉW/Kg. Pogačar’s adjusted altitude score was 696, which means this performance was equivalent to pushing 6.96 ᵉW/Kg for 60 minutes at sea level. "
Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard both did the best and second-best climbing performance of all time on the Plateau de Beille climb, making this the greatest climbing stage of all time.
It’s a shame these new dopers have whisked us away from the squeaky clean GC era of Chris Froome/Bradley Wiggins and Team Sky. They did it all on tea and crumpets!
