It’s a time to test high school runners?

Drug test anyone with a NIL deal at the corresponding national. But this will never happen

then if you are doping you wouldn't sign an nil

As a highschool runner (not fast yet still a sophomore) I've seen those kids run 100 mile weeks in the off season. Stop being such a sore loser and focus on beating the "dopers"

“I’m on my bike for 6 hours a day”

I’m against testing high schoolers for one reason— participation in high school sports can be important to development (social, educational, physical, emotional) and kicking kids off of teams at that age can be disproportionally devastating. You might bust a few cheaters but you’re going to find a lot more kids have experimented with nonperformance enhancing recreational drugs and you’re going to take away what may be one of the few positive things in they’re lives.

re the guy saying it must be 25%, the whole deal is they don't test so you're guessing. you don't actually know. if you don't know, then we don't know if we have any actual problem to deal with. i don't think we should test unless we "know." run a study or something.

i saw a report, playing the telephone game, referring to a CDC report, saying 5%. is 1-in-20 worth testing? it's invasive for kids. you won't catch many people. i also think the authorities would be unable to resist and limit themselves, and it'd also become a coke, weed, etc. test.

worth noting, one of the reasons for drug testing is to catch or deter pro cheaters like lance from screwing up the money machine by making the sport look fake. sponsors flee, crowds shrink, etc. HS sports is not the same sort of money machine. sponsors don't need to be placated. the parents and kids who watch friday night football aren't disappearing if the center gets caught using roids. it's more about how often does it happen and sporting integrity. i don't think 1-in-20 is enough to start invading youth sports with adult style drug testing. it's not that "dirty."

My children played travelling soccer, basketball, amd baseball. They also ran summer track through Usatf and Aau. Every one of those sports required a birth certificate. Your logic is that they are not pros and don't have large sponsors so there is no point. Sounds like a lot of work if nobody cheats and nobody cares.

What seems to be the problem. We are enjoying it to the max. We the fans can’t know one way or another so enjoy it.

You're happy to endorse cheating?

What about the health implications for the young athletes?

Who said I’m endorsing it? If you know even one athlete is doping then name them!

You can’t. Nobody knows if they’re doping or not. Why do YOU cast doubt on all of them?

You don't see a problem with cheating. I see that as an endorsement.

You don't seem to have a problem with adolescents taking substance which will screw up their bodies.

Apart from that it's all good.

I know a way of knowing it: test them.

Just a few thought:

Go to a high school meet, see how many kids are drinking energy drinks before their events - caffeine is a banned stimulant. A number of those kids are above the legal limit. (Excessive amounts of caffeine can cause a number of serious health issues)

We are talking about kids, who have not reached the age of majority. They can not vote or sign a contract, maybe drug testing isn’t about catching “cheaters” but protecting kids from the side affects of some of the banned substances.

I always assumed German F was doped to the gills in highschool.....it just makes sense if he was

I only know of one girl for sure. I won't name her because she is 17. But I suspect that many kids have doped and are doping. What about a kid like Slagowski? What about Zophia Dudek? What about a few of the D3 guys who ran 10 minutes in high school and now run 14:00?

I can confirm they do test high school athletes. You never hear about the protocols or the results because they are minors. My family was subjected to the protocol last fall.

I think with the existence of scholarships plus the advent of NIL and social media, the incentives are now there in US high school distance running. If you can give your kid a pill etc and there is a direct correlation to national class performance and a potential financial windfall, it seems a miracle if this were just a negligible phenomenon.

No they don't.

German was washing dishes on the weekends, he could not afford PEDs. They are very expensive.