Times slightly rounded. I run 45 mpw and, comparably, place slightly better in the 3000 than the mile but enjoy the mile more. What's my current best event and which event should I focus on next year?
To the guy rambling about what races we’re talking about, you literally could have read the first post in the thread
4:15/8:30 are pretty obviously 3k and either 1600 or mile, so a total of 0-1.8 seconds difference.
no, dude said he ran 3k. HS kids don't usually run the full k/half k races, eg 1500/3000, they run 1600/3200. that suggests college or foreign.
plus, i seriously doubt someone runs an 8:30 "3000" but a 4:15 "1600." not only would you be in either HS or college distances, the pacing math problem should be obvious. he's faster the longer he goes? impossible.
in fact, skeptical of the times at all. no one runs a double distance with no fade. he is implying he runs same pace at whatever two races are in the middle. 1500 or 1600 increments. no one does that. you lose time the second half. maybe some olympian negative splits. a kid's PR is not going to be just as fast out near 2 mi as at 1 mi.
"obviously."
Wut. A 4:15 mile is 4:15 pace and an 8:30 3k is 4:33 pace. Can you even math?
In fairness, it'd help if people looking for advice took 2 seconds of their precious time to just specify the fking distance and save the rest of us the hassle
In fairness, it'd help if people looking for advice took 2 seconds of their precious time to just specify the fking distance and save the rest of us the hassle
Happens all the time here
"place slightly better in the 3000 than the mile but enjoy the mile more."
It'd help if you took 2 seconds of your precious time to uh, read, lol.
Anyway... I'd say that the OP is a well balanced runner. 4:15 and 8:30 are pretty similar, with the 800 not being too far behind. 8:30 is better than 15:00, but that might turn into a 14:30 with 60-70 mpw as someone already suggested.
In the garden of distances, where the path winds through meadows of 800 meters, hills of 1600, valleys of 3000, and mountains of 5000, a runner seeks their true terrain.
The times whisper secrets:
1:55 in the meadow's breeze, a hint of swiftness.
4:15 on the hill's crest, a rhythm strong and steady.
8:30 in the valley's cool, endurance whispers softly.
15:00 on the mountain's peak, resilience tested by the climb.
Each time reveals a facet of the runner's spirit, a harmony of speed and stamina. Yet, the brightest light shines upon the hill, where the heart beats strongest, the VDOT whispers 66, a song of balanced power.
Thus, Li observes:
The 1600 meters is the runner's most harmonious path, a dance of speed and strength. Yet, do not neglect the meadow's joy nor the valley's wisdom. For within these varying terrains, the runner may discover hidden strengths and forge a destiny upon the track.
Remember, young runner, the path is yours to choose. Trust your heart, heed the whispers of your times, and let your spirit guide your footsteps towards the distance that sings to your soul.
In fairness, it'd help if people looking for advice took 2 seconds of their precious time to just specify the fking distance and save the rest of us the hassle
Happens all the time here
There's no hassle for most of us. Not sure how anyone reads those times & thinks 4:15 is a 1500 time, lol.
If you were a fully developed, perfectly trained professional athlete, your 800 would be your best. Given you are likely not, your 3k is the most impressive, and you seem to have the most potential at 3k/5k if you focused on them. Just increase your tempo volume and easy volume by 20-30% each year until you can't handle any more and see what you end up with.
If you were a fully developed, perfectly trained professional athlete, your 800 would be your best. Given you are likely not, your 3k is the most impressive, and you seem to have the most potential at 3k/5k if you focused on them. Just increase your tempo volume and easy volume by 20-30% each year until you can't handle any more and see what you end up with.
Agreed. It’s obviously not a female so the 3k is best off limited training
In fairness, it'd help if people looking for advice took 2 seconds of their precious time to just specify the fking distance and save the rest of us the hassle
Happens all the time here
There's no hassle for most of us. Not sure how anyone reads those times & thinks 4:15 is a 1500 time, lol.
😆 I know right? Plus OP clearly says mile in the first post
OP is an obvious troll. If he really runs a 4:15 1500, that converts to 4:45 mile or slower which is almost 5 minutes. 5 min “mile” is really poor for someone with a 1:55 800, but 15 5k is also IMPOSSIBLE for a 5 min guy.. I would expect him to run over 17 min honestly based on his slow down from 800 to mile. So now I don’t think any of the times are real and honestly my whole belief system
is shook.
The more I think about it, I doubt the OP is even a human. Probably an AI bot programmed by the Chinese Communist Party and sent to infiltrate letsrun and sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
According to 2017 IAAF tables and assuming everything is indoor, a 1:55 indoor 800 is 939 points, 4:15 indoor mile is 944, 8:30 indoor 3000 is 906, 15:00 5000 is 845
I'd view a 1:55 indoor 800 as more difficult than an indoor 4:15 mile just because it's nearly impossible to pass and positioning is much more important (where a miler won't do it that much), but vice versa outdoor.
According to 2017 IAAF tables and assuming everything is indoor, a 1:55 indoor 800 is 939 points, 4:15 indoor mile is 944, 8:30 indoor 3000 is 906, 15:00 5000 is 845
I'd view a 1:55 indoor 800 as more difficult than an indoor 4:15 mile just because it's nearly impossible to pass and positioning is much more important (where a miler won't do it that much), but vice versa outdoor.
I'd say 1:53 ~ 4:10 ~ 8:20 ~ 14:30
Yeah, but assuming the 5000m was in Mexico city it converts to a sea-level 14.08 which is probably more like 970 points. Maybe more
In fairness, it'd help if people looking for advice took 2 seconds of their precious time to just specify the fking distance and save the rest of us the hassle
Happens all the time here
There's no hassle for most of us. Not sure how anyone reads those times & thinks 4:15 is a 1500 time, lol.
"how?" because people don't mix imperial and metric, and HS and college. you're EITHER giving 1500 and 3k OR mile and 2 mile. all due respect to the nonsense being spouted, when one says the latter is the 3k, the normal assumption is the first time is 1500.
none of you silly folks are going to question someone who gives two iterations in a row at the exact same pace, zero fade, particularly in a distance race? anything besides 100/200 that's laughable.
I second this! I was similar runner in college, PRs were 1:53-800, 3:49-1500, 4:07-1mile, 8:15-3k, 14:23-5k.
Depending on your age and experiences I'd say your best event lies between the 800/1500. Your 800/3k PRs indicate a sub 4:10 miler so I dont believe 4:15 is going to be your fastest mile.
"how?" because people don't mix imperial and metric, and HS and college. you're EITHER giving 1500 and 3k OR mile and 2 mile. all due respect to the nonsense being spouted, when one says the latter is the 3k, the normal assumption is the first time is 1500.
none of you silly folks are going to question someone who gives two iterations in a row at the exact same pace, zero fade, particularly in a distance race? anything besides 100/200 that's laughable.
"Times slightly rounded. I run 45 mpw and, comparably, place slightly better in the 3000 than the mile but enjoy the mile more. What's my current best event and which event should I focus on next year?"